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A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:10 am

An interesting read.

45 minutes to get off the plane when it gets to the gate.

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:12 am

Been discussed. Do a search.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:15 am

Not if they do it emergency evauation style after every flight.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:17 am

I needed often enough 45 or even more minutes to deplane a 747 when I sat in the rear of the plane (I sit there usually with my girlfriend when we are flying Eco because the seat layout there is 2-4-2 instead of 3-4-3).

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:18 am

Wow, remember to book a seat near the front, I would have to b/c when it takes like 10 minutes at the gate I start to get a little annoyed b/c it is taking so long. Plus international deboarding takes long b/c of more stuff then the size of this hippo, you have to add like an hour to your arrival time just to get a true estimate.

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:20 am

Then, your luggage might actually be there for you when you get off Wink

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:24 am

Would you be able to get a drink at the bar, a massage in the parlor, a romp in the sex club, and a workout in the gym while waiting to deplane? That is the least they could do while you wait..
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:24 am

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 1):
Been discussed. Do a search.

Thanks Captain Obvious! Just because something has been discussed in the past doesn't mean we can't discuss it again. If you think about it, pretty much everything related to aviation has been discussed here already. Besides, just because you saw it discussed, doesn't mean the rest of us did.

How long is it supposed to take to load up an A-380? Assuming its a full flight?
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:25 am

It is good to see such an unbiased article *insert sarcasm here*.  Smile

True, it is going to take a while to unload this thing, but I really question the 45 minute figure. Perhaps if it is the high-density version with 800 or so passengers, but I find this to be rather high. Given that most airlines so far have specified that they will only have around 500 passengers (Emirates did present some higher-cap configs.), this is only about 100-150 more than on most 744s. Does anyone have any idea how long on average it takes to unload a 744? Also, what are the layouts of most A380 customers like with regards to class type on the two decks? I need to search the other posts for a link. I would imagine that more of the upper deck would be first and business and thus there would be fewer passengers on the upper deck. I would imagine that two jetways in the front for the lower part and one jetway to the front door on the upper deck would allow the 380 to be unloaded in times similar to the 744. However, this is only my speculation with regard to cabin layouts and I am not stating this as a truth or a fact.

Another note, most flights using this aircraft are going to be international. Granted many new airports have improved, but are you really that anxious to get off and into the line for immigration?
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:26 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 3):
needed often enough 45 or even more minutes to deplane a 747 when I sat in the rear of the plane

I can see how that can happen. Can you immagine an A-380 in an all coach configuration? You could read "War and Peace" before you got off the plane.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:26 am

Quoting Darrell (Reply 7):
How long is it supposed to take to load up an A-380? Assuming its a full flight?

Can you imagine how many zones it would take to load an A380.. now calling zone W... Zone W...
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:32 am

Oh, and I would prefer to deboard an A 380 with 555 seats than a 747 with 580 seats (Corsair is operating 747's in such a configuration as you can see here).

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:37 am

Deplane time is similar to the 747 and may even be shorter as walkways are larger.
In addition, more gates can be used.


One question : are people paid on this board to constantly bash the A380 ?

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:47 am

Quoting Aither (Reply 12):
In addition, more gates can be used.

This is the point of the article; this is very inefficient to use more gates, so the airlines and airports are not thrilled at this prospect. Use more gates, the fewer gates you have availabe for other revenue producing flights and so on and so forth.

He is also saying that the airports are not thrilled with the extra expense of using the 4 ramps going to the plane (used to speed up both the boarding/deplaning process) because these are expensive and not easily installed for a number of reasons.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:55 am

If true it's just another downside of air travel. We are now told to check in three hours before departure, so I suppose we'll just have to accept an extra half hour added to a long-haul flight. As A340600 says, at least your luggage will be waiting.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:00 am

Quoting Aither (Reply 12):
One question : are people paid on this board to constantly bash the A380

They are paid the same amount that people get paid here to constantly trash Boeing's products.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:05 am

Well, with normal 555 pax configuration and just over 300 on the lower deck it will still be somewhat faster deboarded than for instance a B-777-300 with only one deck.

But letting 300 pax out of one door in 45 minutes = 2700 seconds, that's letting one passenger out every 9 seconds. I have never seen that low rate, not even on a cramped single aisle plane.

And I have never seen a deboarding of a 777 last 50 or 55 minutes.

The man who calculated 45 minutes must be sitting in a wheel chair.

It is polite to shake hands with the captain and thank him for a nice ride when leaving the plane. And when time allows discuss any relevant subject including weather and religion with him. But on large planes we should keep such discussions shorter than 9 seconds.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:07 am

Quoting Darrell (Reply 7):
Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 1):
Been discussed. Do a search.

Thanks Captain Obvious!

You're welcome, Private Grumpy!

On a positive note, doing a search will give you instant access to a wealth of facts and the end point of much argument: leads to a much better follow-up discussion.

Quoting Aither (Reply 12):
One question : are people paid on this board to constantly bash the A380 ?

It would seem Boyd is, but his cheer squad seem to need no other reason than "it wasn't made here".
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:10 am

I like the A380, but I don't wish to wait in the check-in line to get on one, or at the baggage carousel. Ditto for the 747. I'd just as soon take a 752 across the pond.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:11 am

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 13):
This is the point of the article; this is very inefficient to use more gates, so the airlines and airports are not thrilled at this prospect. Use more gates, the fewer gates you have availabe for other revenue producing flights and so on and so forth.

He is also saying that the airports are not thrilled with the extra expense of using the 4 ramps going to the plane (used to speed up both the boarding/deplaning process) because these are expensive and not easily installed for a number of reasons.

I was talking about ramps only, linked to one gate. It does not cost that much and this is the interest of airport authorities to improve quick turnover.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:13 am

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 15):

Should we start statistics ?
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:18 am

Just dreaming about the good old days, DC-9s and no air bridges, internal stairs up front and in the back. It took less than two minutes to deboard 115 pax.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:22 am

At CDG this past Jan., it took me and my girlfriend that long to get off of AF 772ER (F-GSPE). Just one set of air stairs to deplane with to the remote hardstand.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:24 am

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 18):
I'd just as soon take a 752 across the pond

NO WAY! I once flew over five hours on a narrowbody and never want to repeat the experience. Maybe I'm claustrophobic, but at least you can walk about or stand around the emergency exits/toilets on widebodies.
 
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Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:31 am

Made by:
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It is so funny to watch that everything produced in the US of A is a world wonder, while everything produced elsewhere is trash.

It is so funny, but only during the first five years. After that it sometimes becomes rather boring.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:00 am

Quoting DAYflyer (Thread starter):
45 minutes to get off the plane when it gets to the gate

Ah, wonderful...the Boyd Group (or should it be called Airbus Bashing Group??) found yet another (non-) argument to criticize Airbus in particular and European supposed shortsightedness in general.

These anti-A380 Boyd-articles are so absolutely pathetic, I wonder why people still take them serious in the first place. One wonders if articles like these don't say a lot more about Boyd Group than about Airbus' supposed short-sightedness in developing a plane that Boyd think is wayyyy too big(?)
Like Sabena332 pointed out: what would be faster to deboard, an A380 with 555 seats or a B747 with 580 seats...

It seems that some people at Boyd Group either can't stand the idea of a non-US plane being the biggest civil aircraft in the world or that they seriously think that the B747 set the standard when it comes to the absolute maximum size of a civil aircraft. Anything bigger than a 747 is not profitable, can't be de-boarded in reasonable time, takes up too much space, etc., etc.

B747 = Absolute Maximum.
Everything 1 inch over B747 = Wrong, stupid, bad (high investments in infra-structure), bash, bash, bash.

All this bashing by Boyd Group is just as stupid as it would be to complain that American cars (which I love) are too big for European parking-spots and that, therefore, it should be discouraged to drive them.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:10 am

If you dont want to wait 45 minutes to leave the A380, get a F/J ticket, or make sure that you stocked up from the bar before it closed.

Personally, I want to see some mock ups of the interiors that the airlines are promising. They have an excuse to start from scratch, try out new ideas, rather that craming in row after row of seat.

DOes anyone know of where i can find mockups on the web (if they exist?).

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:24 am

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 17):
On a positive note, doing a search will give you instant access to a wealth of facts and the end point of much argument: leads to a much better follow-up discussion.

Oh, is that what all this blathering is called? There is so much misinformation and BS on this site.

Quoting AMSSpotter (Reply 25):
Ah, wonderful...the Boyd Group (or should it be called Airbus Bashing Group??) found yet another (non-) argument to criticize Airbus in particular and European supposed shortsightedness in general.

The Boyd Group is well respected and is certainly entitled to their opinion. I hope you don't lose sleep over this one, AMS.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:29 am

I found other wonderful comments on this site about Airbus....

"Earth to Airbus: low seat-mile costs measured between the time the A-380 rotates and when it comes back down to earth, are only part of the expense equation."

"Airbus replied with a snooty press release of its own"

"Some Reality Please"

"The A-380 isn't a new trend. It's just a big airplane."

This bloke is clearly very jelous, a grain of whatever he says should be added to a plate of salt. The only other thing as oversized as the A380 is his ego.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:17 am

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 17):
You're welcome, Private Grumpy!

 Wink How many jetways will be used to board and de-board passengers? Way back in the early 70's when jet travel was still somewhat unique, I remember seeing a picture of a 747 with 4 jetways connected to it. Is it possible something like that might be used? Are there any airports set up to load/unload an A/C with more than one jetway?
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:18 am

Quoting AMSSpotter (Reply 25):
Like Sabena332 pointed out: what would be faster to deboard, an A380 with 555 seats or a B747 with 580 seats...


AMSSpotter and Sabena332: That is a pretty lame comparison, as you are talking two different configurations for two different markets. If Corsair were flying the A380 on its routes, I am sure they would be configured at the maximum capacity allowed, which will be over 800 people. In either case I would not want to be at the back of either of those planes.

As for the rest of the thread, it is valid to point out that at many airports it well could take longer to deplane an A380. If you are running an airport and you are only expecting 1 or 2 flights a day, then the extra capacity to allow faster deplaning, may not be in your interest. However if you are LH and you are hubbing A380s out of Frankfurt, then perhaps you will invest to ensure that the operation is as efficient as possible.

As for me, chances are I won't be on an A380 any time soon, because most of my international travel from the U.S. does not need to go through the hubs that will get the big birds. As it is, it is rare enough nowadays to even see a 744, and the last thing I want after spending 8 to 14 hours on a flight is to spend an extra 20 minutes getting off the plane and an extra 30 minutes at immigration and customs.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:27 am

I don't think it has taken me more than 15 minutes to get off an aircraft, including full 747's, L-1011's, DC-10's, A-340's, 707 or DC-8's, once the air bridge and a/c door is opened. The biggest problem is you have so many wrestling with overhead baggage, often packed too tight, blocking the aisle for 1-2 minutes each. Also, handiapped get first dibs to get off the a/c delaying regular pax. When full A-380's come in, they should be required to use at least 2 airbridges, one for the lower door and one for the upper door.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:53 am

Folks shouldn't be surprised at some of the "U.S.A.! U.S.A! U.S.A!" bleating section around there as there's a truly huge level of chauvinistic zealotry milling about in the society. Maybe in twenty or thirty years it'll be better that way though as naturalised American citizens exert ever more of a globalising influence instead.


That aviation.com propagandafest article sure is strident polemic. Hardly readable, really.

But even in the generally-unlikely event that an A380 does take 45 minutes to deplane --say with a number of those minutes needed for elderly passengers or passengers needing wheelchairs, particularly-- it still doesn't seem all that terrible overall when factored in to the flight time of at least seven or eight hours, preflight check-in and boarding time, the wait at customs and the rides getting into and out of the the two airports respectively. Be a mighty full day of traveling even if deplaning took a paltry ten or fifteen minutes, instead.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:07 pm

Quoting AMSSpotter (Reply 25):
Ah, wonderful...the Boyd Group (or should it be called Airbus Bashing Group??) found yet another (non-) argument to criticize Airbus in particular and European supposed shortsightedness in general.

So, not in the mood to read the article, eh?

Quote:
"ThyssenKrupp contends a conservative stand layout with two bridges (note: a 747-type gate arrangement) ... will take 45 minutes..." to deplane passengers.

And ThyssenKrupp AG is an EU based company, so really it's a case of EU on EU bashing.

Granted, Boyd chose to point it out, but you can leave the nationalism out of it.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:46 pm

My experience is that the wait is mostly in the aisles of the aircraft, not at the door/bridge. Since the a380 has the same or even more aisle capacity compared to other airliners, I do not see how it should be that much slower. If we add the two decks of the 380 it has 18 abreast seating (if all economy) and 4 aisles making for 4.5 seat per aisle/row. That's pretty decent. Most narrowbodies have 6, but are of course shorter. The 773 and 346 are however longer and have 4.5 and 4.0 seats/isle/row respectively. The 747 (maindeck) is almost as long and has the same arrangement as the 380 maindeck.

I have personally never experienced anything close to 45 min deplane time even on 747s...
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:01 pm

It depends on if one or two boarding bridges are used.
Most Asian airports are built with two airbridges because of the number of widebodies flying around.
I have been on 744Ds that seats 569 pax (almost full) board in less than 15 minutes using two boarding bridges. Int'lly configured planes take of little longer for boarding but deboarding takes less than 15 minutes by using two boarding bridges.
Except for SFO in the US, I have seen very few airports with two boarding bridges. All the ORD gates, int'l terminal included, except a few at the UA T1 have only a single bridge. Of course, this makes sense because a vast majority of widebodies in the US are 767s and US-based airlines only have a single door on most aircraft.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:52 pm

who cares? When is it going to fly?!!!

Just kidding, but all jokes aside 45 minutes isn't that bad.... I mean assuming its an international flight you have to clear passport control anyway, and even still most airports won't have your bags ready (unless you were going to hold FRA true to their word). No big deal, at least you are at the airport!

Can you still use the waterslide to deplane or did airbus get rid of that feature?

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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:17 pm

Quoting Aither (Reply 12):
One question : are people paid on this board to constantly bash the A380 ?

Are people they getting paid to brown nose too? Either way, they may have tourettes.  Wink

j/k if you know anyone with it.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:47 pm

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 27):
The Boyd Group is well respected and is certainly entitled to their opinion. I hope you don't lose sleep over this one, AMS

Naturally, they are entitled to have their own opinion. That's one of many blessings of living in a democracy. I seriously wonder, though, if Boyd Group won't lose some respect and credibility by writing articles the way day do. For instance, take the picture on their website with some of the European leaders on it and the text: "Would you buy a car from these guys?" I laughed my head off, honestly, but pleassse: writing (at least some) articles in gossip-magazine style doesn't really give a boost to someone's reputation. Apart from that, their arguments (at least those related to the A380) don't seem very honest.

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Quoting Revelation (Reply 33):
So, not in the mood to read the article, eh

No, I was in the mood because Boyd articles are often quite funny in more than one way and I did read the article before jumping to conclusions. Reading the article actually only made me more confident of what I was already thinking about Boyd Group's "neutrality" regarding the A380...

[Edited 2005-03-23 09:56:13]
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:13 pm

Just my 2 cents,
JAL is using the 747SR on its internal services. They are configured at 500+ passengers.
I have never read newspapers articles complaining on the extra long time to deplane.
It will be very helpful to read the opinion of a Japanese Traveller.

On my end, it took me more than 45 minutes to deplane from a 737-300 packed with 140 passengers at LHR
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:21 pm

Not wanting to point out the obvious, but wouldn't a A380 with an upper deck gangway deplane quicker than a 747?
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:26 pm

I wonder if a person slept off in an A380 someplace in the cabin,Would he be found eaisly.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:16 pm

Quote from nonsense article:

"ThyssenKrupp contends a conservative stand layout with two bridges (note: a 747-type gate arrangement) ... will take 45 minutes..." to deplane passengers."


If the Boyd group is so authoritative and respected it would have pointed out that the people coming out with this '45 minutes' rubbish are the very people who manufacture the airbridges. Here is a simple idea to boost sales, threaten airport operators with 45 minute deplaning times and see if they want to invest in more airbridges.

Frankly I have never needed more than 15 minutes to get from the back of a 744 to the front door-even when only one bridge is used so I really don't see where this claim of 45 minutes is coming from. I also see that Boyd have been somewhat selective in their use of quotes, I would be interested to see the full text.


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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:00 pm

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 1):
Been discussed. Do a search.

What has not been discussed at A.net over and over again?

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 3):
I needed often enough 45 or even more minutes to deplane a 747 when I sat in the rear of the plane

Really? Which airliner are you flying? Seems a bit odd. I have flown hundreds of times on 747 and unless there are some gate problems, it hardly seems any of the flight took 45 mins to deplane.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:22 pm

Quoting AMSSpotter (Reply 25):
Like Sabena332 pointed out: what would be faster to deboard, an A380 with 555 seats or a B747 with 580 seats...

The fact is that there will be very few A-380 with 555 seats. Most airlines will pack them in like cattle with 650 + passengers. I will be willing to say there will be quite a few with 800 pax as well. Now tell me how long it will take to de-plane the thing?

And yes, while I agree the Boyd group is a little over the top, they have made very valid observations in the past and will do so again in the future. And no, not everyone in the US thinks the A-380 is a bad thing, and no one here thinks people in Europe cant develop something of value. That type of generalization on your part makes you just as guilty as the Boyd group.
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:46 pm

People tend to forget that deplaning time has more to do with the airport facility than with the size of the airplane. That is why airports are being upgraded to support the A380. Just as an example, deplaning a 747 in BOS will take you twice as along as deplaning a 747 in SIN. As others pointed out, there are 747's out there operating with just as many seats as the A380 and they seem to do it just fine.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:00 am

45 minutes seems to me a bit long. At Corsair we can deplane in 20 minutes with only 1 door which is the case at FDF, PTP and boarding can be done in 45mn with full pax which is 580.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:08 am

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 24):
It is so funny to watch that everything produced in the US of A is a world wonder, while everything produced elsewhere is trash.

Who is saying anything is trash? Are you so sensitive that you can't handle discussion of anything European in a less than positive manner?
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:24 am

Well, I don't think getting on and off the A380 is going to be that much of a horror or decidedly different than any of the larger twin aisles out there. Nor am I too worried about sagging tail assemblies, fractured nose gear and tug anchors, or such techno-paranoia ( even though I'm not the biggest fan of Airbus Industries... ) but having said that....

It does seem to me that boarding and deplaning WILL be impacted by various carry-on baggage policies.... I have noted that many of the int'l carriers are somewhat more restrictive about what you can take on board...
and many US domestic carriers let the passengers haul just about everything on board.

I returned once ( JNB to ATL ) on a SAA B744 and it was pretty full; yet did not seem to take an unusual amount of time to deplane. I got on a Delta B767-400 in Atlanta en route to SLC which was barely over half full with pax and every damn overhead bin was filled to capacity... and the delay came with pax taking the time to haul everything out.

THAT'S where I think the delay with that many passengers is going to slow everything down. I tend to think that the US carriers should be a bit more restrictive about one person hauling that much crap aboard the aircraft.
 
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RE: A-380 45 Minutes To Deplane The Monster?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:52 am

Are there any announced plans to install an upperdeck airbridge at any airport?

My guess is that at most airports the same two maindeck airbridges will be used as with the B747. Passengers on the maindeck can use 2L. Passengers on the upperdeck can use 1L at the base of the stairs. I don't see that an upperdeck airbridge would save much time unless it was a third airbridge.

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