san747
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SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:43 am

A quick question... I know that SQ started A340-500 service nonstop to Singapore in September, and before that, it was a 747-400 with one-stop service. The problem is, I have completely forgotten where that one stop was... I can't for the life of me remember where that 747 flight stopped between EWR and SIN... maybe BRU, DXB, LAX?

Thanks in advance,
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B742
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:49 am

SQ used to operate SIN-AMS-EWR 4x weekly, with the 744!

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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:49 am

The stop was at AMS. Flight numbers were SQ23 SIN-AMS-EWR and SQ24 EWR-AMS-SIN
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:50 am

Didn't they change it to FRA?

AMS gets a 772ER no?
 
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:50 am

The stop was in AMS...SIN-AMS-EWR-AMS-SIN on a 747-400, as you said.
Now it's SIN-EWR-SIN on a 345 and SIN-AMS-SIN on a 772

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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:53 am

RJ111, SQ operate SIN-FRA-JFK rather than SIN-FRA-EWR!

SIN-AMS-EWR was discontinued when the A345 was introduced!


Rob!

[Edited 2005-03-24 17:54:28]
 
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tjwgrr
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:15 am

If I remember correctly at one time SQ operated SIN-FRA-EWR-FRA-SIN certain days and SIN-AMS-EWR-AMS-SIN other days.....
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:06 am

Didn't SQ make a stop at NRT as well ? Or was that on route to LAX ?
 
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:05 am

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 6):
If I remember correctly at one time SQ operated SIN-FRA-EWR-FRA-SIN certain days and SIN-AMS-EWR-AMS-SIN other days.....

I think that you are right, SQ flew from EWR to SIN via both AMS and FRA (depending on which day of the week) when SQ service to the New York area was first introduced. SQ quickly added JFK to their route map, and at that point the EWR flight operated via AMS and the JFK flight operated via FRA. JFK-FRA-SIN eventually went daily, while EWR-AMS-SIN operated 4 times per week.

Yeild and loads on the EWR-AMS segment were not very good and SQ was far more successful with the JFK-FRA segment (party due to the fact the EWR-AMS did not operate daily - that usually hurts yeilds)........the story I heard is that SQ launched the nonstop service to the New York area into EWR (instead of JFK as originally speculated) for two reasons: first, SQ did not want to give up the JFK-FRA route and, second, SQ was anxious to dump the EWR-AMS route, thus, EWR got the nonstop flight.
 
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:49 am

Quoting Junior1970 (Reply 7):
Didn't SQ make a stop at NRT as well ? Or was that on route to LAX ?

Thats on the way to LAX. I do believe they still stop there, as well as HKG and TPE.
 
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:59 am

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 6):
If I remember correctly at one time SQ operated SIN-FRA-EWR-FRA-SIN certain days and SIN-AMS-EWR-AMS-SIN other days.....

Actually it was JFK that operated with both FRA and AMS. Initially SQ started with BRU and FRA but switched it sometime during the begining of 1994. The reason I remember is I was booked on SIN-BRU-JFK but it was changed to SIN-AMS-JFK shortly before my flight.

Once JFK became daily via FRA, a short while later EWR was commenced via AMS.

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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:02 am

SQ's initial New York destination airport was JFK, intial daily services I believe, were SIN-FRA-JFK (4x weekly) and SIN-BRU-JFK (3x weekly). The Brussels stop was switched to Amsterdam later due to the airline's belief that there was more demand ex-AMS. The SIN-FRA-JFK flights eventually went daily and at this time, the airline introduced SIN-AMS-EWR I believe initially 3x weekly, increasing to 4x weekly, which operated till the start of the non-stop flights to Newark. With the introduction of the non-stop flights, I think the airline felt that there was not enough demand for both the daily non-stop flights and 11x weekly one stop flights to the New York area, as the Frankfurt stop was (as many on the board have indicated) always the more profitable one (compared to AMS), so the flights through AMS were dropped.
 
san747
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RE: SQ At EWR

Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:36 am

Thank you guys for the answers! AMS completely slipped my mind as a possibility...

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