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More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:28 am

I really can't reveal my source , but in a few months to come (At the Paris Air Show ????), Emirates will order another 40 A380s.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:30 am

You have to be kidding?!? That's pretty cool if it's true though. Dubai airport will look wickedly cool in a few years.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:33 am

I am very serious , no way to be kidding !!!!!!!!!
This info comes from a very reliable source.I can't say more...........
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:33 am

Holy Sh*t, thats outrageous. No wonder, they think the 789 is too small for them. I see they secretly only want a fleet of A380s.


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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:34 am

So, provided the romour is true (and I think EK is capable of anything...) would those be A389? EK has already stated their strong preference for a stretched version...
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:34 am

Well, in another thread we just read that Airbus is on a downhill slide so I don't really believe it...
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:36 am

I can't imagine what they will do with them all. Maybe it's no joke that EK might be doing BOH-DXB twice daily. Gotta use those planes for something. spin 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:38 am

Do not know if it is for A388s or A389s.
Perhaps This A389 will be launched at the Paris Air Show ?????,
Just a though.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:39 am

Can't we think , they will have in sight to be the Number1 airline in the world ?
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:42 am

Haven't heard the exact numbers yet, but I can confirm from a very reliable source too Emirates is set to announce a substantial follow up order on their initial A380 order at the Paris Air show.

BTW, Airbus is going to turn the Paris Air show into a huge media event, not only because of the appearance of its A380, but also by announcing some stunning orders and I guess Emirates doubling their order would be a very good way to start with...

PS: why did you break the embargo on this, FCKC? The deal still needs to be signed and as I've said, it is meant to be part of a devastating Airbus PR campaign....
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:46 am

Quoting Sabenapilot (Reply 9):
why did you break the embargo on this, FCKC?

I guess all the A380- and Airbus-bashing threads we had to endure lately were just too much for FCKC...
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:47 am

Sounds like it will be an interesting airshow. Droool. What are the chances that Boeing will do something really cool to try to steal the show?
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:49 am

I'll believe it when I see it Big grin
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:55 am

AT502B you are no fun  Wink
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:55 am

Sabenapilot

Simply as i was told not to reveal this info.


AMSSpotter

Yes i am very palled to read all this Airbus (and also Boeing) bashing threads !!!!!!!!
If people could beginn more mature..........
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:59 am

What are the chances that Boeing will do something really cool to try to steal the show?

Boeing doesn't really try 'stealing the show' from Airbus. Sometimes it's more effective to reveal orders in the quiet periods before and after the show, when you're guaranteed attention from the media.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:00 am

That's incredible news for airbus. Potentially 200 of these big boys sold if true.

People doubt the selling power of the A380 and sometimes, so do I. But you have to remember air travel is growing. I also think the economics of the A380 could encourage that growth to appeal to people who aren't so well off. Providing air travel to the masses, in a similar fashion the 747 did 35 years ago.

EK are very bold.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:00 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 14):
Yes i am very palled to read all this Airbus (and also Boeing) bashing threads !!!!!!!!
If people could beginn more mature..

I couldn't agree with you more!
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:02 am

How would Emirates finance an additional order of that size?
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:03 am

FCKC-

well, at least it might put an end to all those silly comments about a crisis at Airbus....for about 1 hour, after which somebody will have found a new enlightening article on Airbus and all will start again! Coming to think of it: I have never seen anything cause so much jealousy to Americans as Airbus.

Anyway, if all this stuff materialises, A. will once again have outsold B. in terms of toal number of seats sold (but maybe on less airframes) in 2005.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:22 am

Another 40!!!! Holy crap, that is amazing and very good for Airbus. How is EK going to afford all of this? I know they have tons of oil money, but this seems a little excessive. Does EK do flights to SFO? I hope they do, b/c I would love to see an A380 at SFO.  Smile They will probably be getting discounts on them, but does anybody know how much this will cost EK?
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:27 am

EK wants to be careful they dont get too big for their boots! How on earth will they fill all those 380s? Surely there not going to use them on routes to these second and third-tier UK airports they are fond of serving. For a start the runway at the likes of BHX wouldnt handle them even if there were sufficient demand which there isnt.

Is the desert around Dubai filling up?
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:34 am

Quoting Agill (Reply 1):
. Dubai airport will look wickedly cool in a few years

I don't know how 85 of the same anything is considered wickedly cool, especially when the asthetics of the A388 are very much in the eye of the beholder

Quoting FCKC (Reply 8):
Can't we think , they will have in sight to be the Number1 airline in the world ?

Wouldn't put it past them, but for the time being, WN has much higher market cap value. Heck, WN's cumulative 737 fleet (@ 136 seats per plane) might still be larger than EK's cumulative A388 fleet (@ 600 seats per plane)
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:41 am

FCKC-

well, at least it might put an end to all those silly comments about a crisis at Airbus....for about 1 hour, after which somebody will have found a new enlightening article on Airbus and all will start again! Coming to think of it: I have never seen anything cause so much jealousy to Americans as Airbus.

Anyway, if all this stuff materialises, A. will once again have outsold B. in terms of toal number of seats sold (but maybe on less airframes) in 2005.


One sure way to stop the silly remarks is not to generalize boeing fans as Americans. You are using Boeing and Americans as the same word which is not a fair perception. I love Boeing a/c but I want very much to see the A380 program to do well . To spite all of the folks that said it wouldn't make it.  optimist   Cool
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:44 am

DfwRevolution: That number of those huge aircraft will most likely look pretty cool. Of course all will not be in at the same time.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:46 am

Ah!!  crackup 

Are they serious?! crazy 

Where are they going to fly them to!

I think its just becuase they can! They have the money!  bouncy 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:46 am

Orion737, MAN/BHX/GLA all showing healthy loads; they're not just after the Gulf traffic but Asia/Australia traffic whilst airlines from those parts of the world allegedly "neglect" the regional market. Anyway, April 2007 may be interesting at MAN...

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:49 am

Dfwrevolution

It's not my intention to do any offence to you or Southwest , but surely in less than 10 years , EK will have a fleet of more than 200 widebodies (reliable source) and WN will be a very small airline compared to them.

CAUTION :

Time is changing quickly.Be carefull of China and India which are both booming.
The strongest in 2005 , could be one of the smallest in 10 or 20 years to come.........
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:49 am

Quoting Sabenapilot (Reply 9):
why did you break the embargo on this, FCKC?

I guess all the A380- and Airbus-bashing threads we had to endure lately were just too much for FCKC...

I certainly hope you dont have very much more criticle info on Airbus, if
you can't tolerate a few negative strokes of the keypad , I'm not sure if you are the right person to have such critical info in your posession.  covereyes 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:55 am

What happened to all the "Boeing are dead" threads of just a couple of months ago? Who promoted those?

Quoting UAMAYBACH1239 (Reply 23):
Coming to think of it: I have never seen anything cause so much jealousy to Americans as Airbus.

Sort of a two way street wouldn't you say?
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:58 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 27):
It's not my intention to do any offence to you or Southwest

I said their market cap value, which is currently over 11 billion dollars, will still exceed EK by a large margin.

Quoting FCKC (Reply 27):
but surely in less than 10 years , EK will have a fleet of more than 200 widebodies (reliable source) and WN will be a very small airline compared to them.


No offense taken, I am neither an employee or a shareholder. A massive A388 order is impressive, but put this order in perspective. I said: WN's 737 fleet will have more capacity than EK's A388 fleet. This is true, unless EK orders another another 40 A388.

Quoting FCKC (Reply 27):
Time is changing quickly.Be carefull of China and India which are both booming.

Boom they are, but they are still some of the poorest nations on earth. Despite being 1/4 of the population of India/China, far more Americans fly per annum than Chinese or Indians.

[Edited 2005-03-27 18:00:01]
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:04 am

Well, if this order really materializes, you Airbuse-lovers out there may be pleased but Airbuse itself should be very worried! To have one airline holding 42.5% of your orderbook for a model with a 300-unit breakeven point is problem enough. However, it is even more troubling to have that airline based in a region of the world where political and religious conflict poses a constant threat to the establishment (governments, companies, etc.). Frankly, Boeing should be worried about Emirates as well since it holds some large orders for the 777 models as well. However, Boeings "exposure" to the winds of change in the UAE and at Emirates would be far less severe.

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:07 am

Quoting UAMAYBACH1239 (Reply 28):
if
you can't tolerate a few negative strokes of the keypad , I'm not sure if you are the right person to have such critical info in your posession

I'm quite neutral when it comes to A vs. B, honestly. it's just that I'm getting a little tired of people using about everything as "evidence" to get their points across.
I strongly support all kinds of discussions as long as good and honest arguments are being used. Whether the discussion is critical of A, B, BA, KL or whatever other airline or airline manufacturer.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:13 am

EK wants to be careful they dont get too big for their boots! How on earth will they fill all those 380s?

The newly emerging middle classes of India and China growing at the phenomenal annual rates of about 8% and 10% respectively. That's about 20 million or so new potential travellers per year. If EK pick up even 10% of that number annually, they have the core of a solid expansion program. Plus, a large number of middle class people in Dubai's catchment area of the MidEast, the Indian subcontinent, the Levant, and SE Asia may not have the funds to travel to the US or Europe, but a holiday in Dubai or SE Asia is well within their means.
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:37 am

Personally I love EK but this is too much. I really feel there has not been enough calculations into this seeing as no airline in the world will offer such an extensive fleet of widebodies. BA had 50 or so 747's and what was it about 20 777's? A few 767 in there as well, but EK would have 80 A380's alone, not to mention their 777's, A340's and what ever they purchase in the future(7e7/A350?). Where are these planes being flown? Is there really such a market for flights from all reaches of the Earth to DXB??? I am well aware of the plans to turn Dubai into a high class resort city, but enough to warrant this traffic? Even if EK has said they would offer connections to most destinations through DXB, But do they think I would fly them from JFK-DXB-NRT or LHR???? BA and SQ are both located in areas with high density populations that are custom to flying. But in Dubai and the Middle East this is just not the case outside Dubai in iteself. And what if, and this is a big "what if", Pax don't like the A380? They try to avoid it at all costs because they just don't wish to check-in and check-out with 500+ pax crowded ? Again I restate I am a big fan of EK (who can say no to one of their 777's dopey ?) but I just feel ordering so many A380's when they haven't even been tested to be airworthy or even to see if the Pax would like them, is just a little to daring.

Maybe they know something that we don't scratchchin .

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:40 am

Yeah that sounds great and all if it's true....

But where does EK plan on flying all these massive A380's? There are like a very few handful of airports that can serve this a/c. What is the EK going to pay for these airports renovations to be able to handle this a/c?

Honestly I think there eyes are bigger than reality.

BTW: How many intl airports can handle the A380 SuperSub?
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting Reggaebird (Reply 31):
Well, if this order really materializes, you Airbuse-lovers out there may be pleased but Airbuse itself should be very worried! To have one airline holding 42.5% of your orderbook for a model with a 300-unit breakeven point is problem enough. However, it is even more troubling to have that airline based in a region of the world where political and religious conflict poses a constant threat to the establishment (governments, companies, etc.). Frankly, Boeing should be worried about Emirates as well since it holds some large orders for the 777 models as well. However, Boeings "exposure" to the winds of change in the UAE and at Emirates would be far less severe.

I couldn't agree more.
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:52 am

That would be a bit drastic, when you look at it, those who have conserative plans are the one that ride out stormy conditions (like CX). Even though Pakistan/India/China are massive markets, what if a sudden war break out between china and Taiwan, what about any further rise in fuel prices? Setting their sight too high isn't really a good thing. The interesting things would be what they replace 332 in a few years time, it would be one hell of a battle for both A and B

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:52 am

Some months ago there was also an emirates thread here in this forum.

If I am right, one guy told us that Emirates was thinking to get around 100 A380's. (both 800 and 900 versions)
I am not shure what his source was, but if this is right, he may had a good one Big grin
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:12 am

I still can't imagine how their route network will look like in 2012. I think they are out for a megahub with all the connecting traffic possible, that they fly multiple A-380s a day to the big markets in Europe, Asia and Australisia a day which feed eachother, and have the A-330s and 777s fly to dozens of smaller European, African and Asian cities like Dortmund, Bremen, Newcastle, Cardiff, Groningen, Montpellier, Bilbao, Torino, Lilongwe, Yangon, and so. Will all the home airlines in all these countries accept that Emirates is out offering connecting services to about all destinations for which DXB can be a stop over or try to keep them out? It might be a big "bubble", even with "only" 43 A-380s, which bursts when they don't get the traffic rights they expect to get or when other airlines undercut their pricing. Singapore and Cathay are examples who succeeded and Swissair failed in doing the same thing, even while their growth was already much slower and balanced.
(edited to correct "megahub" )

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:29 am

From Emirates' website news sections, regarding their logo:

"In another first for Emirates, the new Boeing 777-300ER is the first to emblazon the airline’s logo on the underside of all of its fleet. The distinctive logo - the Emirates name in white on a red field - is nearly 12 metres long, with the initial letter 'E' standing 2.3 metres tall, complementing the existing golden branding on each side of the fuselage.

It is meant to literally underline outwardly what the carrier’s customers know the moment they step into its aircraft: Emirates is an airline different from any other."

It seems that no day passes without a new thread being started on EK and its fleet expansion... It's great to see that the Middle East is making the news nowadays with an immensly succesful airline rather than only with armies and battles. I truly wish the best for EK, the region needs to focus on the future and on its role as the world's crossroads.
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:31 am

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 4):
would those be A389? EK has already stated their strong preference for a stretched version...

I agree, if there is another EK order, it will be for A389's, perhaps a mix of A388's until the 389's come off the line.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 40):
I think they are out for a multihub

Do you mean mega hub? That seems to be what you're describing. I think they'll get the air rights; if they don't it will create political pissing match on who gets the oil!  duck 

All I can say is that the Paris air show should be interesting for orders this year.  Smile

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:35 am

Don't forget they might include as many as 15 freighters in the second batch. I think it makes perfect sense to buy this many planes, the delivery schedule will take them up to 2020, it's not like they'll get the whole lot in 2006.
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:52 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 30):
Quoting FCKC (Reply 27):
Time is changing quickly.Be carefull of China and India which are both booming.

Boom they are, but they are still some of the poorest nations on earth. Despite being 1/4 of the population of India/China, far more Americans fly per annum than Chinese or Indians.

Well said. 1) While there are lots of Indians and Chinese in this world, the disposable income of a significant amount of them are small. And I speak from experience on both personal and professional levels. Like DfwRevolution mentioned, a very small percentage of them relatively to their total country population actually fly. In addition, majority of the growth in aviation in both of those countries will come from domestic travel. And that is for a very easy reason. 2) Unlike most of us in the US or Western Europe or few countroes like Japan, etc ALL Indians and Chinese need visas to travel to most (if not all) European, North and Latin American countries. In additon, visas are also need to travel to Japan, Australia, etc, etc. That SEVERELY restricts free movement. Visit the US Embassy in New Delhi or Beijing and stand outside the main gates and watch how many people come out those buildings disappointed (and some even with tears) after their visa application is rejected. In fact, very small amount of visas are actually approved (for right or wrong reasons). TheSo all this growth that everyone talks about... it's all domestic. The expense of traveling abroad and visa requirements (including high visa application fees approaching $100 a shot) for Indians and Chinese makes MASS traveling a prohibited situation in both of these countries.
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:56 am

I just gotta say I hope this is true. This would be great news.

Still no news on 1st flight yet
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:59 am

Quoting Boeingfever777 (Reply 35):
Yeah that sounds great and all if it's true....

But where does EK plan on flying all these massive A380's? There are like a very few handful of airports that can serve this a/c. What is the EK going to pay for these airports renovations to be able to handle this a/c?

Honestly I think there eyes are bigger than reality.

BTW: How many intl airports can handle the A380 SuperSub?

I agree where is EK going to fly with so many 380? It doesn't make scenes to me buy so many. Is the Sheik just going to buy A380 and fly them half full or park half of them?

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:09 am

While I have to admit that I, too, am somewhat surprised by the number of A380s that EK has ordered and, supposedly, will order, I am not too surprised by the reaction of some around here...

First of all, do we even know if all those planes will be pax versions? There could just as well be a substantial number of freighters involved...

But even if it is all about pax versions - as has been mentioned time and again, EK isn't getting all the planes within a week... or a month... or a year... and perhaps (or probably), the deliveries will spread out over more than half a decade: more than enough time to develop old and new markets into ones that can sustain A380s.

SQ is an airline, like EK, that does not have too much of a domestic market - like SIN, DXB is a destination for tourism, and it's one that's developing quite nicely. But considering the huge amount of connecting traffic that EK sends through DXB, I'm quite sure that they'll get to the point where they, indeed, can fill those planes.

From the current point in time, the expansion plans that EK has seem very ambitious... but I'm sure that there were points in time when the same was said about airlines like SQ.

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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:29 am

EK's current fleet:

1 310 (?)
29 332
8 343
8 345
9 772
12 773

2 742F (wet lease, I believe)
3 744F (wet lease, I believe)

total: 72

On order:

2 345
20 346 (including 2 to be leased from ILFC)
30 773er (including 26 to be leased from ILFC and GECAS)
43 388 (including 2 to be leased from ILFC)

2 388F

total: 97

40 more to come? I don't think any top 50 airlines have ever had more aircraft on order than their current fleet. FWIW, I have also heard they are going to order more Boeings.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:30 am

Totally agree with the comparison with SQ, we didn't have the net then to discuss their very large 747 purchases in years gone by, SQ were not shy of buying 777's more recently either, all from a tiny little Island, a city state even.

I think this idea that it's all some oil splurge either needs putting to bed, it's seems those running EK, those who bankroll it, are looking way beyond oil revenues.

It's not really enlightening to compare EK with BA, the history, routes, conditions both operate under are just so different.
 
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RE: More Than 80 A380s For Emirates!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:40 am

Honestly if they are going to place another massive order I would have to say if its true it will be cargo a/c more than any. There are only so many airports around the world that can handle a A380. Forget the runway limitations and all....lets talk about the gates and other items that deal with loading and unloading an a/c. Also EK will have to hire lots of staff for this to happen. How many F/A's is an A380 going to need to serve 500-600 passengers? Also EK just placed an order awhile back for (30) 777-300ER's between those and all these A380's.......WOW that's alot of sits to fill and lots of profit to be made.

BTW: when is the Paris Air Show? hehe...  Embarrassment  Embarrassment
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