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Green Stuff On New Planes

Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:50 am

Why are planes that are being test flown sometimes covered by some kind of olive-green material (paint? primer? paper?)?
 
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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:26 am

It's called ambertec and it is a protective covering that is applied to the skin of the aircraft prior to painting. Once in the paint shop it is stripped from the aircraft and the aircraft painted.

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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:19 pm

Um...its primer. FR primer.
 
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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:27 pm

Jeb94,

I co-authored a story a few years ago on the painting of a new 717 and the green coating is ambertec, not primer. As I stated above, it is removed (or stripped) before the aircraft is painted.

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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Mon Mar 28, 2005 2:31 pm

Dacman:

I think he was being sarcastic...note the fact that he said "FR primer" at the end of his statement. FR is an Irish carrier.  Wink
 
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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:20 am

Isn't Ambertec the yellow stuff and Alodine the green stuff?
 
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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:54 am

Ambertec is green Alodine is yellow-green.

Ambertec is not a primer

Alodine is a primer
 
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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:00 pm

Gosh,I feel like a neanderthal in this thread.I have no clue what those things are , but I get the point.

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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:45 pm

Alodine is not a primer. Its a metal treatment, not a paint. Primers are paint. Never heard of ambertec before but then I'm a mechanic. I have seen brand new PC12s and Gulfstreams and that is zinc chromate primers.
 
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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:31 pm

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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:02 pm

The building the 777 video shows the green stuff, I assume it's Ambertec as people have said, being washed off with a hose, after I assume something has been put on it to break it down.

Now in a former life, during maintenance we would treat aluminum with Alodine a chemical that leaves a golden look and is for corrosion protection, it should then be painted as soon as possible with primer which was green, the Brits use a yellow primer.

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RE: Green Stuff On New Planes

Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:22 pm

Quoting Jeb94 (Reply 8):
Alodine is not a primer. Its a metal treatment, not a paint.

Alodine is a surface treatment (conversion coating) made by Henkel Technologies. I happen to work for the company. Alodine is a registered trademark of Henkel.

You can read about Alodine's here: http://www.loctiteaero.com/index.cfm?ID=170
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