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When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:23 am

Let's assume that the B747Adv goes ahead and Boeing replaces the B737NG before replacing the B777-300 and B747.

I can see two possible strategies for Boeing:
1) wait for Airbus to announce an A320 replacement first, so that Boeing can refine their plans in response, or
2) move quickly, before Airbus have a chance to develop composite fuselage technology, so that Airbus are forced to respond with a derivative, as was the case with the A350.

Is 2) plausible? Could Boeing develop a B737NG replacement with a composite fuselage and bleedless systems in parallel with the B787-9? If so, could Airbus respond with a composite fuselage design?
 
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:25 am

Wow--the NG is still young we are looking at nearly 20 years before the first 737NGNG flies. I believe Boeing made a comment that they will begin development no sooner than 10 years or so.
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:35 am

If Boeing goes ahead with a 737 replacment with 787 technology rather soon-lets say before the 747Adv- then Airbus will be in major trouble bc:

1) Airbus is too busy with the A380 and A350 at the moment
2) Airbus needs to replace the A300 before they go ahead with another new line
3) They will have to wait for the A380/A350 breakeven to have the money

But if Boeing is smart, it may be a clever thing to do.


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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:39 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 1):
Wow--the NG is still young

Yes, but it was not a clean-sheet design and is only just competitive with the 17-year old A320. Also, the B787 technology changes everything.
 
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:56 am

I've read the same what Drerx7 already mentioned. IIRC Boeing will focus on the 737 replacement after the 787/747Adv. I also agree with what DeltaWings said, if Boeing is smart they may want to announce a 737/A320 replacement aircraft sooner than later. It will probably take a minimal investment because Boeing can use the technologies of the 787 to create an entire family of new aircraft types, incl. the 737. But this can also be said for Airbus. Unlike what DeltaWings said, Airbus may have to invest more in a new aircraft but once everything is defined and proven Airbus can also apply the same technology in an all-new aircraft family, like Boeing can do with the 787. If the technologies used in the A380 and A350 have proven themselves, Airbus can make an entire family of aircraft based on this technology.

So Airbus may well be bussy with the A380 and A350 now, but if they become a success, we can expect an entire new family of Airbus aircraft, just like what Boeing may well do once the 787 has proven itself.

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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:14 am

Shorter Version of the B787,in Five years time My guess.
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:43 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
Shorter Version of the B787

The B787-3 and B787-8 are already 3 meters shorter than the next shortest 8-abreast airliner (A330-200). I think anything smaller will be single-aisle.
 
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:48 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
The B787-3 and B787-8 are already 3 meters shorter than the next shortest 8-abreast airliner (A330-200). I think anything smaller will be single-aisle.

Exactly.The B737 needs to be replaced.  Smile
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:02 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
The B737 needs to be replaced.

Do you think the B737NG will be replaced by another single-aisle aircraft or by a shortened B787?
 
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:29 am

Quoting Zvezda (Thread starter):
can see two possible strategies for Boeing:
1) wait for Airbus to announce an A320 replacement first, so that Boeing can refine their plans in response, or
2) move quickly, before Airbus have a chance to develop composite fuselage technology, so that Airbus are forced to respond with a derivative, as was the case with the A350

Supposing that Boeing does not launch the 747ADV this summer. That's the end of that particular story, isn't it? Wouldn't that free up a lot of design personnel and make a few billion $ available, enhancing the attraction of option (2)?
 
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RE: When Will The B737NG Be Replaced?

Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:14 am

Quoting Art (Reply 9):
Supposing that Boeing does not launch the 747ADV this summer. That's the end of that particular story, isn't it? Wouldn't that free up a lot of design personnel and make a few billion $ available, enhancing the attraction of option (2)?

Perhaps. Or it might cause Boeing to decide to develop a replacement for the B777-300 and B747 before a replacement for the B737NG. After all, the B737NG is not so old and currently competitive with the A320.

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