trnswrld
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DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Fri Apr 07, 2000 11:36 am

I was looking through a lot of DC-10/MD-11 pictures and all I gotta say is that those are probably the sweetest looking jets of all time. My favorite view is a headon shot on ground or on landing approach. I think they just look mean as hell 
Anyone else feel this way about those big old trijets?
P.S. L-1011's are sweet to
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Fri Apr 07, 2000 3:13 pm

I also think the 10's are great, other than some contract work I did on MD-11 freighters I've had limited exposure with that aircraft but with those winglets they look great, especially in AA livery. But per Murphy's law if there are any engine problems they always seems to be on #2, on cold rainy ( or snowy) nights, the engineer who thought up that must still be laughing about what he did to the mechanics. Of course I've seen some beautiful sunrises on the patio up there.
 
Danny
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Fri Apr 07, 2000 3:37 pm

All I have to say is...HELL YEAH!!! Long live the DC10/MD11!
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Fri Apr 07, 2000 6:07 pm

Yes..., or not! What do I mean? For sure, they look great, as well as any other BIG one. But what makes airplanes look great is also some "style". M11 has A LOT more than D10: those "sexy" winglets and the long body. I find D10s too much of the sort "fat" (due to shorter length). I love M11s much further than D10s, these ones even behind (by much) L15s. Tjis is the same with 752s and 753s: the stretched -300 look better to me. Also, how to compare any 747 with a 74SP? Doesn't look better a 321 than a 318? or a 774 than a 772? Therefore, my bet goes to M11 rather than to D10. Best turbulences
 
MD11DC10
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 2:32 am

Go Danny! Yeah MAN! DC10-MD11 are the best. Something about the swept wings, and definately the No. 2 engine.
Alitalia, Swissair, and AOM are my favourite colour schemed MD11-DC10's.
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 3:32 am

Absolutely not! Those jets are horrific in apperance - the middle engine jutting through their tails, the short fat design, the wings so far back they look like they forgot to put them on until they'd built the first 2 thirds of the fuselage. Hah hah hah! Those things are so ugly they make me laugh. They're squat and stubby and look like something from a horror story book... bleah!!!
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 3:35 am

the DC10s are the best planes of the world!!!!!!!!!



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teahan
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 3:36 am

The MD11 is my favourite plane !! So many memories with SR flying to the US, Africa and South East Asia  
I will miss it when it leaves Ilove it in SR & EI colour schemes. It looks to stylish and aesthetic. EI uses them during the summer leased from World Airways for extra capacity.

Jeremiah Teahan
Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 3:39 am

The MD11 is my favourite plane !! So many memories with SR flying to the US, Africa and South East Asia  
I will miss it when it leaves SR I love it in SR & EI colour schemes. It looks to stylish and aesthetic. EI uses them during the summer leased from World Airways for extra capacity.

Jeremiah Teahan
Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
 
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Teahan

Sat Apr 08, 2000 4:05 am

While I think they're hideously ugly, I will regret never having a chance to ride on either the DC-10 or MD-11. I'm planning some L-1011 excursions to savor their flavor before they go, and I'm thinking about some United DC-10 trips, but those are rare and the odds aren't in my favor that the trip will be affordable. In any case, I don't know when I'll ever get a chance on an 11, though they'll be around for a while. All in all, I don't aim for either and won't miss them when they're gone, but sure - it'd be nice to have a ride on the poor things before they're gone for good.
 
aa737
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 4:21 am

I agree that the MD-11 looks really good from the outside. It just looks really nice. I can't say the same for the inside, I much preffer the 777.
 
killjoy
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 6:18 am

I actually have a poster right in front of my computer of a Finnair MD-11 taking off.

And guess what picture I have in my wallet.
-Yup. An MD-11.

(OK, so maybe it would be more normal to have a picture of a cute girl, but hey...)
 
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My Previous Post

Sat Apr 08, 2000 6:22 am

"I actually have a poster right in front of my computer of a Finnair MD-11 taking off."

That should have said "right behind" :-)
 
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Killjoy

Sat Apr 08, 2000 7:06 am

Well... that would depend on whether you think of the computer's idea of forward as being the direction you face when you're using it. Behind my computer is a picture Boeing sent me of the first 737-700 in the factory, with just the rudder painted!!!
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sat Apr 08, 2000 7:19 am

I agree that the DC-10 & MD-11 are very attractive looking widebodies. It is too bad that under their skin they had some engineering problems in their design where on the DC-10 the 3 hydraulic lines were put side-by-side rather than each one in separate areas which could have prevented United 232 from crash landing at Sioux City.
 
trnswrld
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RE:

Sat Apr 08, 2000 10:29 am

But hey think of the bright side, it aint the DC-10's fault  oh yeah one more question, did McDonnell Douglas re-design the MD-11's hydraulic system that you know of? thats something I never really thought of until you brought that up.
And to 747-600X, I understand you may not like the looks of the DC-10/MD-11, but it is for sure a very different design from Boeings aircraft nowadays. As much as I love ALL aircraft, Boeing planes are all basically identical in shape except the 747 ofcourse.
But I love them all.
 
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RE: L-1011's Are Better

Sat Apr 08, 2000 12:42 pm

As I recall, after UA 232, there was no mandatory order from the FAA or any re-design brought on by McDonnell Douglas regarding the DC-10's hydraulic system.

One thing to remember is that while the DC-10 had numerous fatal crashes due to mechanical/maintenance problems (AA at ORD, UA at SUX, THY outside Paris), I don't recall any fatal mechanically related L-1011 crashes. In fact, the two I do recall (EA at MIA, and Saudia in Jeddah/Riyadh) were due to pilot error and passenger stupidity.

Nevertheless, I have enjoyed my DC-10 rides as well the L-1011, I'm just partial to the 1011.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
 
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TrnsWrld

Sat Apr 08, 2000 11:07 pm

"oh yeah one more question, did McDonnell Douglas re-design the MD-11's hydraulic system that you know of?"

*IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY*
(don't trust me)

1. The MD-11 will not retract lift producing devices on hydraulics failure.

2. The MD-11 is flyable even with no control surfaces available, although it requires that all engines are operational.

I have no idea about the positioning of the lines themselves, though.
 
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RE: DC-10/MD-11 Are Sweetest Looking Jets.

Sun Apr 09, 2000 5:27 am

I know after the United Sioux City crash, McDonnell Douglas modified the DC-10 by adding one-way check valves in the 3 hydraulic lines to seal any possible leak in the lines preventing a complete loss of hydraulic fluid. These have been around since the 50s and have been very effective. These were on the L-1011 when Lockheed designed it's 4 hydraulic systems and were also an add on to the 747 after a Japan Airlines crash in the mid 80s. One-way check valves were standard on the MD-11 when it was being developed.