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Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:44 pm

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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:24 am

Well....one of the things I hate is to cut meat with plastic knives, so welcome metal again. Finally they understood that avoid metal cutlery won't avoid terrorist acts !!
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:27 am

Thank goodness.

Mystery meat tastes so much better when cut with metal cutlery.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:31 am

This is at least the third thread within 24 hours on this topic.

If you're interested, try a Search.

[Edited 2005-04-05 17:36:21]
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:48 am

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 3):
If you're interested, try a Search.

I did it and got nothing.

You may see the date of the info in the initial post of this thread:"Beginning this month, fliers in Britain will be able to cut their food with metal knives again.
April 4, 2005: 2:10 PM EDT"
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:36 am

Thank god! Bring metal cutlery back to the US too! I'm sorry, but a text book* as a blunt weapon is more dangerous than a serated cafeteria knife. Not that there is much food left on flights... (which is a good thing, airline food has a reputation for a reason.)

Quoting Bongo (Reply 1):
Finally they understood that avoid metal cutlery won't avoid terrorist acts !!

Here here! The continued over-reaction has me annoyed. The 9/11 style of hijacking wouldn't work today; everyone would know they were dead and the pax would fight to retake the aircraft.

The one VERY sensible post 9/11 precaution is the beefed up cockpit doors. A salsberry steak has a better chance of getting through one than the metal cutlery...

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* specifically, I'm thinking of Mark's Handbook for Mechanical engineers. The absolute "heaviest" of the text books I had to carry around.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:32 am

FYI..

At the end of January this year i flew MAD-FRA on the LAN A340 and the cutlery used on board was a plastic spoon,plastic knife and a METAL fork.

Kinda strange i thought.

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(p.s. I even managed to cut my finger with the plastic knife while trying to cut the bread roll.)
 
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:59 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 2):
Mystery meat tastes so much better when cut with metal cutlery.

What the hell are you on?! How does it taste better whether you eat with plastic cutlery, metal cutlery or even with your hands!?
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:01 am

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 7):
What the hell are you on?! How does it taste better whether you eat with plastic cutlery, metal cutlery or even with your hands!?

Red wine tastes better by far in glass than in a plastic cup... It is a matter of taste !!

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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:05 am

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 5):
Here here! The continued over-reaction has me annoyed. The 9/11 style of hijacking wouldn't work today; everyone would know they were dead and the pax would fight to retake the aircraft.

Absolutely true! In the old days all of us passengers were adviced to remain calm and invariably the hijackers put the plane down on the ground. No one thought otherwise. In todays's world, I am pretty sure every single passengers including grandma will be physically fighting anyone trying to take over a plane. So bring back metal cutlery and at least let us enjoy the mystery meat and mini salad and desserts in the cattle class.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:56 am

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 7):
What the hell are you on?! How does it taste better whether you eat with plastic cutlery, metal cutlery or even with your hands!?

I think BritPilot777 was being sarcastic!

Although, as Bongo said things do taste better when eaten with proper cutlery.

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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:27 am

Some airlines use the excuse of 'security' to avoid using metal cutlery as it will add costs to their overall profit margin. Metal cutlery are heavy and hence for an airline that wants to get rid of pillows to save of evergy costs, it is of course an easy decision.

For about over a year now, some airlines flying within the US have allowed metal cutlery including knives for meals - in First Class at least. Airlines flying to/from USA have been allowed to use either full metal cutlery or maybe all except the knife. American Airlines however, still use alll plastic utensils.

So it's not a matter of security.. but rather a matter of scrutiny from the airline manager's office!
 
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:32 am

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 3):
This is at least the third thread within 24 hours on this topic

Well perhaps he didn't happen to see them. And suggesting he does a search is just plain stupid - how do you know what you don't know?
 
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:25 am

Trident2e:-

Watch my lips:-

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 3):
If you're interested, try a Search.

There are currently at least 22 recent thread contributions in a search for cutlery.

Quoting Trident2e (Reply 12):
how do you know what you don't know?

Consider your proposed/actual title of your new thread - CUTLERY is the main word.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:35 am

Thank god! Bring metal cutlery back to the US too!

Why?

How many people do you know who eat mini-pretzels and chex mix with a fork and knife?
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:50 am

One thing I noticed when I flew LY is that they give you metal cutlery. I didn't expect that, with them being very serious about safety.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:12 pm

They will not be used [obviously] in flights to and from the U.S..
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:15 pm

I few AMS-ORD on KLM 3 days ago and had metal cutlery including a Knife !
 
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:23 pm

Last year I flew KLM AMS-YVR and we had metal knives, then on the flight back to AMS, we had plastic knives. Must have been a "transition" phase or something.  Yeah sure

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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:56 pm

Quoting HansieAMS (Reply 17):
I few AMS-ORD on KLM 3 days ago and had metal cutlery including a Knife !

Sounds strange [I'm not saying that is false], and incomprehensible during times of tight security around the world [specially the U.S.].
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:38 am

Recently I was on my way to US on Lufthansa's aircraft a340-300 and there was metal cutlery in economy class. I thought that US aviation authorities (whatever their proper and official name is) didn't allow metal cutlery on board of all flights coming to US. On my way back on United all cutlery was plastic (also economy class), and just off topic service on Lufthansa was excellent, which I can't say about United.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:17 am

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 13):
There are currently at least 22 recent thread contributions in a search for cutlery.

Re-read post 4. Specially second paragraph.
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:26 am

Quoting NotSoFrqntFlr (Reply 20):
I thought that US aviation authorities (whatever their proper and official name is) didn't allow metal cutlery on board of all flights coming to US.

-> TSA = Transportation Security Administration

-> You can bring/use a metal butter knife (rounded)

-> Both flights to and from the US are affected
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:26 am

well nz have had it back for over a year on the london route , the plastic effort was taking the soup!!
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RE: Metal Cutlery Back On Board

Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:39 am

I flew Asiana last week they had metal knives and forks
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