SBE727
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Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:19 am

HI THERE,

Can anyone tell me what the max range would be for a fully loaded F100.

If you can use LONDON GATWICK as a base and what the furthest destinations it can reach from there.

Also, anyone know what the average lease rates are for these machines on an ACMI basis.

Many Thx in adv

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:28 am

Hey

I'm sorry that I can not help you on your questions, But I would like it if someone could help me out on the Fokker 100 (Instead of starting a new topic), Could a Fokker 100 take-off fully loaded from London City Airport, and land with a full set of Passengers?

Or say could It fly Bournemouth-London city with a fully loaded plane, and the fuel it needs for the flight?

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:31 am

I don't know about fully loaded, but empty it could certainly do the LCY strip...

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:33 am

Is a F100 certified for LCY? I think that due to its spatial proximity to "the City", LCY has a steeper than usual approach path that requires special aircraft certification. I know that the ERJ and the Q8-400 have it as well as the F27, but I've neve heard of an F100 landing there.
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:40 am

Max range of the F100 is 1,323 nm or 2,505 km. The F100 has a minimum runway length of 1,800 m or aproximately 5,400 ft. It could theoretically operate into LCY, but not with a full load, and it definitely could not take off from LCY with a full load. Would be nice if it could, though, maybe Rekkof can work on it  Smile

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:46 am

Quoting SBE727 (Thread starter):
Also, anyone know what the average lease rates are for these machines on an ACMI basis.

Don't know... but if you're interested, there's someone in Canada that could sell you a dozen of F100s for a sweet deal...  Smile
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:53 am

Why would anyone want to operate a F100 from BOH-LCY?  Confused
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:19 am

Thx for all the quick responses, much appreciated.

Texan: Range 1323nm or 2505km

Do you know what this is time wise. not sure how to look it up !!!

YUL332LX: I wish i could buy a load of the fokkers, prob get a good deal with the jetsgo F100.

Hope someone can help on the above.

Many Thx

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:54 am

Scheduled time, you're looking at about 3 hours 20 minutes flying westbound (approximately DFW-LAX), or about 3 hours 10 minutes NE bound (approximately DFW-PHL).

Typical AA routes for the Fokkers were DFW-IAH, OKC, TUL, STL, MCI, ICT, and AMA. From ORD the typical routes were to MDT, SWF, HPN, LGA, DTW, and STL.

Texan

btw, completely off topic but Herb Kelleher just dropped in! spotters in Bloomington, Indiana keep your eyes open he'll be there in a couple hours  Smile
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:13 pm

The longest route for the Fokkers out of ORD was to SAT at 1,041 statute miles. I don't know if those flights were weight restricted.

Texan:

I don't think AA ever flew Fokkers on ORD-LGA, although they did fly ORD-EWR. A friend of mine is an AA pilot, and has flown ORD-LGA on 727s and 757s. Other than DC-10s and 767s early in his career, the only other aircraft he has seen on the route is the MD-80.
 
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:04 pm

Just out of interest.

Does anyone know if there is a massive difference at all in lease costs between the F100 and 737-300.

I know there is an increase of say 30 seats but the range is soo much more.

Many Thx

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:03 pm

The F-100 would be the ideal a/c for a LCC operation out of LCY, IF the runway was slightly longer, however, I would never subject passengers to the vile cabin that comes as standard on those birds. Very poor quality furnishings I thought when I flew AA from ORD-RDU, or may have been CLT, I dont remember. Could the overheads,ceilings and wall panels be replaced like the NW DC-9's?
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:04 pm

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 6):
Why would anyone want to operate a F100 from BOH-LCY? Confused

Why would anyone wat to operate from BOH at all?  Wink
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:23 am

FK 100, ACMI rate is c. EUR 2,000 - 3,000

B737-300 ACMI rate is c EUR 2,500 -3,000

B737-200 ACMI rate is c EUR 1,900 - 2,200

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:17 am

the F-100 isn't certified for LCY, but the F-70 is... thats why there are so many rumours of VLM being the first to fly the new build F-70's so they can fly more passengers from theire LCY hub... although i dont think the F-70(NG) will ever see the sky....
 
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:47 am

Thx for all your help on the above

Cheers

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:54 am

Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 6):
Why would anyone want to operate a F100 from BOH-LCY?

Hey,

LOL, True, I just wanted to give an Example of how much Fuel it would have on board.

Thanks for your answers, SBE727, Sorry, It seems more people have answered my question that yours.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 12):
Why would anyone wat to operate from BOH at all?

*Huff* Plenty of Airlines.

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:11 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 3):
Is a F100 certified for LCY? I think that due to its spatial proximity to "the City", LCY has a steeper than usual approach path that requires special aircraft certification.

As far as i know they are both(F70/F100) certified for LCY operation.

Quoting Texan (Reply 4):
Max range of the F100 is 1,323 nm or 2,505 km.

You probably got your data from A.net but that isn't completely accurate as most airliners took the center tank option by which the maximum range is increased to 1680nm.
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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:50 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 17):
As far as i know they are both(F70/F100) certified for LCY operation.

Willem is right! Both the Fokker 70 and the 100 are certified for flights from LCY.

BTW, long time no see Willem! How are things going?

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RE: Fokker F100 Range

Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:59 am

It might be an open door but has anybody checked the site of Rekkof Aircraft NV? (www.rekkof.nl) On this site performance data is provided for the F70NG and F100NG. What I can recall from my time at Fokker is that the data provided is the same as the F70's and F100 currently flying around.