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Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:47 am

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch, AirTran will announce service to RIC tomorrow with flights to ATL and PHL (and MCO later on). See AirTran cleared for landing for details.
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:03 am

Good for RIC.. it has been highly underservedfor a while now. To get flights to ATL, PHL, and MCO is really great. I see FL pulled a move similar to CLT there.. glad some places are getting more than just one destination.. now if they could perhaps go to some of their current destinations and add some more..

But CONGRATULATIONS to Richmond.. They will have AirTran and jetBlue (eventually).. not bad.. not bad at all! Who says they need WN?
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:26 am

Another high fare haven bites the dust! Guess who's the largest carrier there right now? The blows from the low fare carriers keep raining down on a certain BK carrier if you ask me...
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:47 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
They will have AirTran and jetBlue (eventually)..

Oooh .. B6 to RIC soon? when the 190's come? You think around 2006 sometime?
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:59 am

Congratulations RIC! May your air fares decrease and your passenger numbers increase, ten fold! (Like what happened at PNS)

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
now if they could perhaps go to some of their current destinations and add some more..

Yes, please! Come on FL add more destinations out of cities you already serve  Smile
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:59 am

Great news...Way to go FL!. I wish them continued growth and success. It will be interesting to watch the battle between FL and Southwest.
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:24 am

Is this where the flights that Dayton lost are going?
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:50 am

Aaaah - So that's why Bob Fornaro and Kevin Healy were on my flight today from MCO to PHF.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:53 am

Quoting Jbmitt (Reply 6):
Is this where the flights that Dayton lost are going?

I have not heard of any cutbacks at DAY. Do you have a link?
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:07 am

interesting they're going to RIC when they already go to PHF (Newport News), just down the road. anyone else surprised by that?
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:08 am

I have not heard of any cutbacks at DAY. Do you have a link?

Some nonstops to Florida are being cut in May...probably just seasonal.
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:10 am

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 9):
interesting they're going to RIC when they already go to PHF (Newport News), just down the road. anyone else surprised by that?

Not really.. it's similar to RDU and CLT.. not too far in distance.. DCA/IAD.. MSY/Gulfport.. TPA/SRQ... ROC/BUF
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:11 am

Actually, this is yet another return city for FL. They served RIC out of MCO (And also had RIC-ORF service) at the time of the merger. So what former Valujet/AirTran cities will see the return of service to next? SDF? JAN? CMH? CVG? MOB?
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:15 am

Srbmod - I thought the same thing. 2005 is turning into a "dejavu" year for us....

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:18 am

AirTran is adding a third trip from BWI to Dayton in May. I would guess that the Florida service cuts are seasonal, they have also cut some flights from BWI and PHL to Florida for the summer.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:24 am

AirTran is adding a third trip from BWI to Dayton in May. I would guess that the Florida service cuts are seasonal, they have also cut some flights from BWI and PHL to Florida for the summer.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:32 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 12):
Actually, this is yet another return city for FL. They served RIC out of MCO (And also had RIC-ORF service) at the time of the merger. So what former Valujet/AirTran cities will see the return of service to next? SDF? JAN? CMH? CVG? MOB?

So Valujet never served RIC..just the original AirTran? Is this correct?
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 16):
So Valujet never served RIC..just the original AirTran? Is this correct?

ValuJet did serve RIC.. and I do believe it wa several destinations..
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:41 am

Even if FL does already serve Newport News, the combined Tidewater area and Richmond is a pretty populous area and there should probably be enough traffic to justify service to both airports.

At 80 miles, RIC is further away from Newport News than say Lansing (LAN) is from Grand Rapids (GRR) or Kalamazoo.
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:41 am

No, ValuJet never served RIC.

The original AirTran served RIC. When we (ValuJet) bought and became AirTran, we kept RIC, eventually serving it from both ATL and MCO with DC9s.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:03 am

Yes Yes Yes !!!

The largest airline market in America that has neither an airline hub nor an LCC now gets FL!

This is wonderful news, and RIC is a wonderful market!

I actually wanted FL to come here more than B6.

I like WN even more than FL, but now that FL is here I dont think WN wants to come here anymore.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:44 am

Yes, most likely seasonal cuts to florida. FL has several seasonal flts into PHL that will be cut in the summer, 3rd daily FLL, 2nd daily TPA, 1 daily PBI, 1 daily RSW. Although the FLL and TPA flts should really be all year round especially with WN in the market now.
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:06 am

anyone know why FL left RIC in the first place?
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:12 am

The FL flight from PHL to PBI is still in the schedule for the summer. Cuts must be elsewhere.
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:40 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 11):
Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 9):
interesting they're going to RIC when they already go to PHF (Newport News), just down the road. anyone else surprised by that?

Not really.. it's similar to RDU and CLT.

RDU-CLT is a LOT farther than RIC-PHF.

Quoting Kim777fan (Reply 18):
At 80 miles, RIC is further away from Newport News

Richmond is just over 55 miles down I-64 from Newport News. That 80-mile figure is for RIC-ORF.
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:50 am

Quoting Vatveng (Reply 24):
RDU-CLT is a LOT farther than RIC-PHF.

But the point still stands.. even though they are close to each other, they cater to 2 different geographies/demographics.. that's all that matters..
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:08 am

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 9):
interesting they're going to RIC when they already go to PHF (Newport News), just down the road. anyone else surprised by that?

Both US and DL serve both ORF and PHF, a mere 15 miles apart. And while US flies mostly the wretched Dash-8 to PHF, DL flies a bunch of RJ's and a daily MadDog to Atlanta. My point? PHF will be fine, there's more than enough O/D in Hampton Roads to support it even if we lose the traffic driving in from Richmond. They'll still drive here for the LGA flights. And the WN fans will still be driving all the way to ORF.

RIC used to be my home airport, but the last time I flew from there it was still called "Byrd Airport" and my flight was on Piedmont  old  I'm glad they're finally getting LCC service. I was rooting for Frontier so I could get a nonstop to Denver, maybe they'll follow AirTran to Richmond  pray  Now if AirTran will hurry up and decide what to do with DFW, maybe I could get a PHF-DFW nonstop?
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:58 pm

the article mentions the RIC-PHL flt will continue onto BOS. Just did a search and found that PHL-BOS will be 5 times daily, up from 3 flts currently and 2 flts this winter.
 
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:47 pm

I wonder since AirTran is returning to some previously served cities if they would consider coming back to BDL.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:49 pm

Well the RIC schedule is in the system. I will post it in a little while
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:55 pm

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 27):
the article mentions the RIC-PHL flt will continue onto BOS. Just did a search and found that PHL-BOS will be 5 times daily, up from 3 flts currently and 2 flts this winter.

As of this April 5, FL now offers 4 PHL-BOS r/ts.

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 21):
Yes, most likely seasonal cuts to florida. FL has several seasonal flts into PHL that will be cut in the summer, 3rd daily FLL, 2nd daily TPA, 1 daily PBI, 1 daily RSW. Although the FLL and TPA flts should really be all year round especially with WN in the market now.

While it may be viewed as seasonal cuts; I wonder if these cuts could possibly become permanent in light of the recent FAA mandate to limit planes at FLL.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2041360/

If that is indeed the case, FLL may see more FL 73Gs (or maybe even 738s should they get them) and the 717s will be deployed elsewhere. Another possibility would be for FL to utilize MIA more should they discover that they can't restore the earlier-cut FLL flights..
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:56 pm

Looks like service starts on June 24th

0630 RIC-ATL
0705 RIC-PHL
1110 RIC-ATL
1340 RIC-ATL
1600 RIC-PHL
1805 RIC-ATL
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:19 am

Good for Richmond! As several have noted, may JetBlue soon follow.

Regarding AirTran's departure from Richmond last time around: RIC is a corporate-heavy market. In the giddy, flush late 1990's, when FL was there the last time, corporate travelers could demand to be flown on network carriers to feed their FF addictions and get away with it. It's a different world now, compadres. Corporations want lower fares too. FL should do very well at RIC.

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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:00 am

It's great that AirTran is coming to RIC. David Neeleman of JetBlue took a tour of RIC with Governor Warner-I believe it was last year- and has said that he definitely wants to come to Richmond by the end of Gov. Warner's term. I'm suspecting more airlines are waiting for the renovation and addition of the RIC terminal building to be completed. Great news...can't wait to see some JetBlue 320's or 190's in RIC.
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:06 am

Quoting Pbiflyer (Reply 23):
The FL flight from PHL to PBI is still in the schedule for the summer. Cuts must be elsewhere.

Both PHL-RSW and PHL-PBI have been suspended for the summer schedule as they are no longer in the schedule. Also now that it seems the summer schedule is out as i said before both PHL-FLL and PHL-TPA lose a frequency. However PHL-ATL gains back its 6th flt.

Very surprised to see those FLL and TPA reductions. With all the planes coming this year and the high demand between PHL and these cities i would suspect these winter frequencies could last year round.

PHL this summer
ATL-6
BOS-5
MCO-4
FLL-2
TPA-1
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:58 am

Usairways85

The PBI & RSW to PHL flights were both in the schedule this morning, but are now gone. I stand corrected.
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:25 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 12):
So what former Valujet/AirTran cities will see the return of service to next? SDF? JAN? CMH? CVG? MOB?

Valujet once served JAN?? Interesting.

Though doubtful, it would benefit me personally if that were to suddenly reappear for FL! JAN is now a DL/WN competitive hotbed of lowered fares, but is the largest market in MS so anything is possible. Maybe Nissan would forward some of the tab?
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:48 pm

Well looks like Airtran jumped into Richmond before Southwest turned up.
Looks like St Louis misses out again.
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RE: Richmond Lands AirTran

Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:59 am

I was about to post this after reading it in the morning paper. Hopefully fares across the board out of RIC will fall. It gets to be quite a pain sometimes to travel to DC, ORF, or RDU. Fares here were just ridiculous. It cost my mom $1600 for 2 tickets on a bereavement fare when her father died. It would have cost me twice as much to go to Europe the both times that I went, if I had departed RIC. Thanks Airtran.
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