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AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:44 am

American Eagle will start daily CRJ-700 service between O'Hare and Nassau on 9 June 2005:

AA 4467 ORD 1240-1700 NAS CR7 Daily
AA 4468 NAS 1745-2009 ORD CR7 Daily

AA is the largest US carrier in Nassau, with non-stops to Dallas, Fort Lauderdale, Miami, LaGuardia (seasonal), Orlando, and Tampa as well.

For those wondering, at 1311mi, this will be American Eagle's second longest route, after LAX-XNA (1371mi) (DFW-NAS, at 1300mi, is the 3rd longest). However, because the aircraft must hug the coast on the way to Nassau and cannot take the most direct route (basiclly, the plane will takeoff from ORD on a route to Miami, and then from Miami turn to go to Nassau), the actual length of the trip is roughly 1381mi.

2x daily service between O'Hare and Colorado Springs begins the same day, also with CRJ-700s:

AA 4457 ORD 1204-1330 COS CR7 Daily
AA 4461 ORD 1843-2015 COS CR7 Daily

AA 4460 COS 0815-1130 ORD CR7 Daily
AA 4458 COS 1410-1730 ORD CR7 Daily

However, as a result, AmericanConnection's daily servic between St. Louis and Colorado Springs will end on 31 July 2005.

[Edited 2005-04-09 21:50:42]
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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:18 am

Will AA be the only airline servicing ORD-NAS and ORD-COS?

I any case, I wouldn't want to be on a CRJ for over 3 hrs (to NAS)...I don't see why it can't support mainline service. NAS is a very popular leisure spot, and I'm sure CHI has more than enough O&D and connecting traffic to support a daily 757.

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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:46 am

I believe AA also has YEAR ROUND service JFK-NAS
 
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Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:51 am

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 2):
I believe AA also has YEAR ROUND service JFK-NAS

No, they don't. Song and jetBlue do, not AA.
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Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:06 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 1):
Will AA be the only airline servicing ORD-NAS and ORD-COS?

No. United has been doing ORD-COS for some time. It was a ZW route until recently, now its an OO route. Makes sense now after ZW sold their maintenance facility in COS to OO.
 
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Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:11 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
No, they don't. Song and jetBlue do, not AA

Well neither have made it a year yet.

DL and US provide daily flights from LGA. Both carriers along with AA provide even more LGA-NAS flights on the weekend.

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 1):
Will AA be the only airline servicing ORD-NAS

Nonstop, although Spirit offers direct service via FLL.

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 1):
I any case, I wouldn't want to be on a CRJ for over 3 hrs (to NAS)...

Its a long flight but if you are coming from a city only serviced by AA from ORD. I find it far more convenient than making two stops.
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Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:07 pm

Sorry to hear the loss of COS-STL service. If I recall correctly TWA was the first airline to offer service to someplace other than DEN out of COS (though maybe
Braniff used to have one daily to DFW). I used to work near COS and loved
seeing the 727 parked at COS every morning. First time I took one it wound up
having to fly to DEN anyway as they couldn't load sufficient fuel.


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Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:42 pm

Quoting Clrd2go (Reply 6):
Sorry to hear the loss of COS-STL service. If I recall correctly TWA was the first airline to offer service to someplace other than DEN out of COS

I'm sorry to hear it as well. COS-STL has been operated by TW/AA since 1982, and for a very short time even had a dog leg down to PUB.

From 1979 until 1982 TW ran COS-ORD, and before that CO operated the route starting in 1968. CO also ran nonstop jets to ABQ and LAX from COS. AA also operated COS-ORD '88 to '89.

Incidentally, Braniff inaugurated DC-3 service AMA-COS in 1943!

I have lots of other completely useless information about COS in case anyone wants more info...
 
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:11 am

I am glad to ehar UA is getting some competition to ORD, kinda sad about STL but I believe the loads on those flights were pretty bad and prices were high.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:02 am

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 5):
Well neither have made it a year yet.

being as we're due to add a second round trip on July 1st [and we also had to add a non permanent second flight before the second flight was supposed to begin due to such a high demand], I'd say B6 is holding its own on the JFK-NAS route.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:35 am

Well that is good news for me, regarding the NAS portion.

For me to get from LAX to NAS is usually a bit annoying as I have to connect through MIA or FLL and then fly on one of American Eagle's decrepit AT7s.

This way I'm sure LAX-ORD-NAS will be possible, not to mention many other routings.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:45 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 10):
ll that is good news for me, regarding the NAS portion.

For me to get from LAX to NAS is usually a bit annoying as I have to connect through MIA or FLL and then fly on one of American Eagle's decrepit AT7s.

This way I'm sure LAX-ORD-NAS will be possible, not to mention many other routings.

what about BUR/LGB-JFK-NAS on JetBlue?
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:48 am

WOW I cant wait. Great news for AA!!!
 
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:53 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 10):

This way I'm sure LAX-ORD-NAS will be possible, not to mention many other routings.

Why would you even bother with such a ridiculous routing? You rather spend 3h30m on a RJ over 45 minutes in an ATR? And, if anything, do LAX-DFW-NAS. At least you don't go out of your way.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:55 am

re N200WN..thanks for that..how'd I forget about COS-ABQ? First time I ever flew into COS in 1977, I believe, was SFO-ABQ-COS and return. I lived there from late 77-79, then 81-83. Still consider Colorado Springs as "home" though I haven't lived there in over 20 years..miss it.


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Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:44 am

What I would like to see AA start is ORD-BDA. After AA dropped RDU-BDA, it is very difficult to get to BDA from ORD, since the departures out of other cities, such as BOS or LGA, have often left before the 1st flight of the day out of ORD arrived.
 
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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:14 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 9):
I'd say B6 is holding its own on the JFK-NAS route

Didn't mean to make it sound as though the flight wasn't going to last. NYC-NAS is highly successful. Just the original post made it sound as though the JFK-NAS market was well established by these two airlines when in reality it is a new route.
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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:22 pm

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 15):
What I would like to see AA start is ORD-BDA. After AA dropped RDU-BDA, it is very difficult to get to BDA from ORD, since the departures out of other cities, such as BOS or LGA, have often left before the 1st flight of the day out of ORD arrived.

It's easy now via Miami.

United performed horribly on ORD-BDA last year, and isn't resuming the service.
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:23 pm

MAH,
ua was subsidized by the bermudian govt....after the subsidies ran out they pulled out as well as the loads were terrible......
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:32 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 19):
ua was subsidized by the bermudian govt....after the subsidies ran out they pulled out as well as the loads were terrible......

Correct, it was loss-subsidized. UA didn't lose any money on it, but the Bermudan government subsidized the flight. They didn't end up having to go that deep into the subsidy bank, though.
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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:20 am

MAH4546:

When did AA start flying MIA-BDA? I just ran a search on AA.com and got a lot of ORD-LGA, connecting to JFK-BDA options.
 
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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:31 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
Why would you even bother with such a ridiculous routing? You rather spend 3h30m on a RJ over 45 minutes in an ATR? And, if anything, do LAX-DFW-NAS. At least you don't go out of your way.

It's no less ridiculous than LGB/BUR-JFK-NAS. American Eagle's ATRs are bloody awful!

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 11):
what about BUR/LGB-JFK-NAS on JetBlue?

Will soon be an option (in June I think they're starting BUR, which is closer to my house) but if they're the same price I'd rather fly on AA, even though the service sucks!
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 22):
Will soon be an option (in June I think they're starting BUR, which is closer to my house) but if they're the same price I'd rather fly on AA, even though the service sucks!

then why would you want to fly on them, if the service sucks? up to 4x a day BUR-JFK, and twice a day JFK-NAS. BUR starts in May
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RE: AA To Start ORD-NAS, ORD-COS; End STL-COS

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:10 am

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 21):
When did AA start flying MIA-BDA? I just ran a search on AA.com and got a lot of ORD-LGA, connecting to JFK-BDA options.

2 March 2005.

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 22):
It's no less ridiculous than LGB/BUR-JFK-NAS. American Eagle's ATRs are bloody awful!

For a three hour trip like San Juan-Port of Spain, yes. But for Miami-Nassau, a flight that can often take less than forty minutes? They are fine.
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