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CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:27 am

I was just wondering....why distinguish between the two, Continental and Continental Micronesia....why not just call it all Continental??? I am thinking maybe because of payscales and such, costs in general????
 
Cory6188
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:34 am

I think that they keep the two airlines separate because CO Mike has some specific rights for routes that only they have, and I would hazard a guess that they might lose them if their operating certificate was changed to CO proper.

However, as I'm sure you know, that's about the only difference between the two airlines. CO Mike uses regular CO aircraft, with normal CO uniforms (although I believe they wear a different scarf), and CO flight numbers.

There aren't even any special titles on the aircraft. I don't even think that there is anything on the outside of the plane that says "operated by Continental Micronesia" like one would see on many express carriers.

[Edited 2005-04-11 00:36:18]
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:35 am

weird seein as all the money goes to the same place....
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:39 am

Air Mike is a wholly owned subsidiary of CO. It has nothing to do with route authorities.

CO Micronesia was marketed as such for the benefits of the Federated States of Micronesia, so they had a "national" carrier. It is now all marketed as just Continental.
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:24 pm

The pilots do have different wings. It has the old flag of the Trust Territory on it. At least that was the case when I last flew them in 2001. They also have a different in-flight magazine called Pacifica. It is mostly written in Japanese.

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 3):
CO Micronesia was marketed as such for the benefits of the Federated States of Micronesia, so they had a "national" carrier

When living in Micronesia, a favorite topic at the sakau markets was why Air Mike had almost exclusive rights to some routes while some airlines (I can only think of Aloha) was denied landing rights in PNI. The most frequent response was that the FSM politicians were receiving kickbacks from CO Micronesia so they would not allow Aloha to fly in.

I'm only repeating what I hear. This could be totally false, but it is a commonly held belief in the FSM (especially PNI). Also, note that Air Nauru (ON) flew into PNI on its way to GUM and MNL, so Air Mike did not have exclusive rights on the PNI-GUM route for the number of years ON operated this sector.

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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:20 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 3):
Air Mike is a wholly owned subsidiary of CO. It has nothing to do with route authorities.

Perhaps now, yes, but that wasn't always the case. A company called United Micronedia Development Fund owned part of CO Micronesia, CO bought the remaining shares from UMDA in 1997.
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:35 pm

Yes UMDA 7% Share was Sold to CO after the Death of UMDA and DHL Founder Larry Hillbloom...Pilots are CO Pilots FA's And Ground Staff work for AirMike...9 737-800 Operate on the Airmike Cert 767's on CO...AQ flew HNL-KWA-MAJ-HNL...ON Did fly INU-PNI-GUM-MNL FSM can grant landing right to anyone they want... Palau Micronesia AIr was supposed to fly but lasted less than one month on GUM-ROR-MNL and ROR-DRW, YAP-ROR Flights ..

I Dont think there is a big demand in or out of the FSM...and Marshalls..as

They have been less slow to Develop as ROR, GUM, SPN

ROR has several airlines now Far East Air Transport, Asiana, JAL, Manderin some new hotels are going up and they are on CBS with Survivor Palau
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:46 pm

CO should just sell AIRMIC since they could care less about growing the airline.
In fact over the last 10 years AIRMIC has given away most of the cargo and even some of there more profitable routes..
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:49 pm

Quoting 9844 (Reply 7):
CO should just sell AIRMIC since they could care less about growing the airline.

Why would CO sell its most profitable division?
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:52 pm

Does CO Mike have their own website?

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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:38 am

Quoting Avek00 (Reply 8):
Why would CO sell its most profitable division?

AIR MIC is an after thought for CAL. You are right AIRMIC makes money. However CAL has been piece mealing away cargo and a few selected routes.

IE: Saipan Nagoya...AIRMIC Used to service the route with a DC-10. Now they no longer fly the route.NWA has taken the route and services it with a 757-200.

Now there is rumor that the GUM HNL will be down graded with a 757. Removing the 767...Another Container loader gone>
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:41 am

i highly doubt that they will downgrade HNL
the amount of cargo and pax is to great to downgrade
 
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:42 am

i htink you may have misunderstood a response i may have put in another post....i was adding that with the new winglets on the 757.....what about adding a year-round second flight on the 757
 
9844
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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:51 am

Here is another one. AIR MIC CEO lives in Houston! There is also talk about 737 jet service being eliminated between Saipan and Guam.Cape Air dep 03:30am.Would be the remaining service. Don't know how that can work? I believe the 737 jet service connects Saipan with T-2 and T-961.

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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:23 am

Quoting 9844 (Reply 13):
Cape Air dep 03:30am.Would be the remaining service. Don't know how that can work?

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RE: CO And CO Micronesia

Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:00 pm

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 11):
i highly doubt that they will downgrade HNL
the amount of cargo and pax is to great to downgrade

I agree. The amount of mail carried warrants the use of the 767. CO is the only one with daily service to GUM and they carry at least 3-4 LD-8s plus a couple more LD-2s full of mail. Mail headed for Guam and CNMI have their own covered area at the post office. Lots of guaranteed money there. I've been seeing the amount of pax boarding the flight and it looks like they got some good loads.

Quoting Doona (Reply 9):
Does CO Mike have their own website?

No.

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