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Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:26 am

Reuters reporting Korean has ordered 10 787's

[Edited 2005-04-11 04:28:07]
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:29 am

I would expect all of them to be -900s  

Here is the direct link to the article :

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8136446

[Edited 2005-04-11 04:31:02]
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:31 am

WOO-Hoo!

Okay it took them four extra months but they finally got over the 200 mark.

Congrats to Korean and Boeing!
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:35 am

Great news for Korean Air and Boeing! Looking forward to these. Any idea on a possible delivery date?
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:38 am

I think these would be 787-8s since the 787-9 isn't officially launched yet.

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:43 am

Great news! I am happy that SkyTeam carriers are also ordering the 787. Too bad that the article does not mention details such as delivery dates, potential routes and whether they will all be -800's or -900's.

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 1):
I would expect all of them to be -900s

Why do you think the order is for the -900 type Behramjee? I was under the impression that the -900 was still in an earlier development stage with respect to the -300 and the -800.
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:03 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 1):
I would expect all of them to be -900s

This initial batch are -8s.

[Edited 2005-04-11 05:04:20]
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:07 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 5):
Why do you think the order is for the -900 type Behramjee? I was under the impression that the -900 was still in an earlier development stage with respect to the -300 and the -800.

Well because these SE Asian carriers always somehow choose big aircraft and with a 217 seating capacity in 3 classes, these airlines would probably find the B 788 a bit too small. Just look at the number of A 333s in SE Asia compared to A 332s!!!
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:08 pm

They are indeed -8's with delivery between 2009-11
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:08 pm

This was one of the "deciding" competitions wasn't it? I think people mentioned KE, QR and EK as being the most "open" competitions that would weigh the two models.

Does anyone know which way QR is leaning?
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:23 pm

As far as details go, they are a little sketch at this point. Don't expect -9's. However, either -3's or -8's are both as possibility, as Korean have stated these initial aircraft are intended to begin replacing the A300-600R fleet.

Definitely a significant victory for the 787, as this is the first A330 airline (and a large [19] fleet at that) to have signed on for Boeing's new twin.

Waiting for Boeing's release to see if they state any more details.

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:34 pm

Wonderful news.  praise 

Please Korean, if you change your livery before then, just improve it (if you can) but don't go Thai on us!!!  stirthepot  bigthumbsup  - They will look wonderful in their current livery.  swirl  hypnotized  fluffy 

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:39 pm

SEOUL, April 11, 2005 – The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] and Korean Air Lines Co., Ltd. today announced an order for up to 20 Boeing 787 Dreamliners in a deal worth approximately $2.6 billion at list prices. The agreement involves 10 firm orders and options for 10 additional 787s. Delivery of the 787-8 airplanes will begin in 2009 and extend through 2013.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q2/nr_050411h.html



[Edited 2005-04-11 05:40:44]
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:43 pm

Quoting SFORunner (Reply 12):
Delivery of the 787-8 airplanes will begin in 2009 and extend through 2013.

Perhaps Udo will believe me now that KE is not considering the -3 at this point in time?  

Here is the photo release.

[Edited 2005-04-11 05:45:29]
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:48 pm

I agree, the Dreamliner will look awesome in KE's livery, so let's hope KE does not change it to a boring Eurowhite scheme.
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:50 pm

Do the 27 787s for AI and the 10 for Korean represent orders from the 57 Boeing said they had deposits for?
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:02 pm

well http://www.justplanes.com have just announced that KEs order for B 787s will indeed be for the -800 version only. But I shall not be surprised in the future to see some options converted into a -300 version for flights to China and around the region (within 5 hour flying distance).

Korean Air has announced an order for up to 20 Boeing 787 Dreamliners. The agreement involves 10 firm aircraft as well as 10 options. The airline picked the 800 version with deliveries scheduled from 2009 to 2013.

[Edited 2005-04-11 08:03:39]
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:06 pm

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 15):
Do the 27 787s for AI and the 10 for Korean represent orders from the 57 Boeing said they had deposits for?

This is likely the case with KE. Would AI's management have the autonomy/flexibility to enter into such an agreement without government approval?
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:11 pm

Interesting, Boeing sells how many 787's as compared to Airbus and their A380? Seems to me that the ultimate winner of all this may be Boeing after all. The tides seem to be turning on Airbus albeit it will be a few years in the making.
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:21 pm

Quoting Clipperhawaii (Reply 18):
Boeing sells how many 787's as compared to Airbus and their A380

These aircraft certainly represent different visions of how the future marketplace will develop; however, China Southern, and now Korean have ordered both planes.
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:27 pm

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 19):
Do the 27 787s for AI and the 10 for Korean represent orders from the 57 Boeing said they had deposits for?

AI I don't think so at this stage;not official enough yet. KE definitely. I think they have probably been counted as 20(10+10). Of the remaining 37 commitments, my best guess at this stage is 30 for AC and 7 for LOT. But they are just guesses.
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:21 pm

Great to see Korean order the 787... it looks surprisingly good in there livery.

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 19):
These aircraft certainly represent different visions of how the future marketplace will develop; however, China Southern, and now Korean have ordered both planes.

Korean has ordered the 380...when and how many?

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:00 pm

Quoting AC787 (Reply 21):
Korean has ordered the 380...when and how many

They first announced an MoU for 8 at the 2003 Paris Airshow. Here is a link to their plans on their order for 5 and 3 options that they released at the A380 launch

http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/eng/ld/news/050118_airbus380.htm

Good to see another 787 order too.

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:02 pm

Now, I'm not a big fan of the KE livery at all...as a matter of fact I really don't like it very much, only because of the color choices (It's only a personal opinion), but I must say that in the 787 colors, I actually like it quite a bit.

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:53 pm

This is great news for KE and Boeing and better yet the 787 program! CONGRATS to both of them on this order for 787's, looks good in KE paint.

First the AI announcement and now the KE finalizing there announcement....WOW! Wonder who is next... ACBig grin
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:30 pm

I think Korean Air will be a good case study in figuring out whether or Airbus or Boeing made the right call with regards to the future of air travel. Will they supplement the A380 fleet or the 787 fleet down the road? The answer to that will have much bearing on the differing views of Airbus and Boeing.

I consider Korean Air to be the only truly commercial airline that has purchased both the A380 and 787. The Chinese airlines are still under substantial government control which means factors other economic efficiency play a big part in fleet decisions. Therefore I do not think you can gauge too much about either airplane by their picks.
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:34 pm

Great news for Boeing and KE- especially good for Boeing as KE was an established A330 operator. If the NW order comes to fruition Airbus will have lost 2 good A330 operators. It might be time to go back to the drawing board if they're going to sell the A350 as a 787 competitor.
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:02 pm

Great news for both companies! Looks like the A-350 could be in trouble except for the potential Middle Eastern customers. I bet Airbus is pulling out all the stops right now with AI and EK, NW, trying to get the A-350 off the ground. Of course they still have KLM, AF, BA and others to work with as well.

I wonder what is going through the minds of the good folks at Airbus right now?
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:34 pm

Chairman Cho might be asked to return his prize if he ever exercises the other 10 options and spurns the A350:

http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/eng/gd/ak/pr/ddy_award.htm
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:42 pm

I think there is one very good reason why KE went with the 787-800: common cockpit commonality with the 777-200ER's and 777-300's KE now flies. The A300B4-600 models KE now flies are NOT the current cockpit design Airbus now uses, so KE's cadre of pilots already qualified for the 777 could transition to the 787 easily.
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:35 am

Looks like Boeing made the right call for the 787 vis-a-vis a larger 747. Here comes the point-to-point international market that's going to change the way people travel, reduce Europe and Tokyo layover dependencies... just the beginning. I'm sure the Airbus people are watching these orders very carefully and will now, if they haven't already, begin to reconsider the A-350. The A-350 won't stand up to 787 sales as the 777 far outshines the A-330.
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:22 am

Quoting AC787 (Reply 21):
Great to see Korean order the 787... it looks surprisingly good in there livery.

Can't agree with you there, sorry. I think their livery looks like a giant can of Diet Pepsi/Pepsi Light  Smile

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:26 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 19):
These aircraft certainly represent different visions of how the future marketplace will develop; however, China Southern, and now Korean have ordered both planes.

I'd have to say that both A and B have in some ways rethought what the future might hold. A with their A350 and B with their recently annoucned plans for the 747X. I'd say that it's at least some proof that there is room for both planes.

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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:29 am

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 31):
I think their livery looks like a giant can of Diet Pepsi/Pepsi Light

Now I realize why I suddenly felt thirsty when I saw the picture.
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:06 am

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 31):
Can't agree with you there, sorry. I think their livery looks like a giant can of Diet Pepsi/Pepsi Light

 laughing 

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 33):
Now I realize why I suddenly felt thirsty when I saw the picture.

...was thinking the same thing!


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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:36 am

Good, I like the 787 and KE. I take it thats another nail in the coffin for the A350 if only EI, IB, LOT and other airlines come up with big orders!
 
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RE: Korean Orders 10 787s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:15 am

I just can't wait until this year Paris Airshow.
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