DID747
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Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:06 am

Hi friends,

Can someone tell me the current status of AF 747 fleet. Where are they flying to at this time and what about the models? Is AF still flying some 200 models?

Thank you very much.

DID747

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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:15 am

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me the current status of AF 747 fleet.

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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:29 am

AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer.
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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:32 am

I believe they have a pretty comprehensive list on their website. Air France is a great carrier, so I always look them up first on the rare occasions that I get to cross the pond.
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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:50 am

DarthRandall,

I agree with you, but unfortunatly for the summer season 2005, there is no more AF B744 on JFK as it used to be.
AF B742 & B743 pax (I thought that all were already gone) and cargo version are soon to retired with the arrival of additional B773ER.
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:41 am

Well, 742 are used on less competitive lines such as ORY-RUN or ORY-FDF

According to their website they have 23 747 PAX and 12 747 cargo

http://www.airfrance.com/double6/Y1/...ishedWeb)/fr-FLOTT-lc?OpenDocument (sorry, French)
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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:46 am

"AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer."
upgrade?  Smile

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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:35 am

I thought I saw a AF 747-400 at LAX - got pretty close from the AA Eagle bus
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:50 am

Quoting Stealthpilot (Reply 6):
"AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer."
upgrade?

Yes, from daily 747 to 11x weekly 777.
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:13 pm

Saw an Air France 747-400 at SFO over the weekend. It is now the regular aircraft. BTW, it must have just been cleaned. It literally sparkled.
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:01 am

Since this summer the CDG-CCS flight is operated by a 744.
It received a water canon salute on its first day of operation arriving in CCS, as it is the only 747 serving CCS on a regular basis.

But regular passengers are less than delighted by the change, as the comfort is lower than in the 332 or 343 which were used before. Especially there is no individual video, and a 3-4-3 layout in Eco is of course worst than a 2-4-2 layout.  Sad
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:11 am

Quoting SFOMEX (Reply 2):
AF flies a 744 to MEX. They are upgrading it for a 777 during the summer.

That is a downgrade. Still, given that MEX has good premium cabin traffic, I would not be surprised to see 772ERs or 77Ws on the route permanently.
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:13 am

They also have some B747-300s, saw some at ORY last week.


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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:12 am

Someone knows if the AF 747-400 has power outlets for laptops?
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:37 am

Only the aircraft with the new J-class seats and those with the (old) first class seats have laptop power.
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:50 am

Quoting SFO212 (Reply 9):
Saw an Air France 747-400 at SFO over the weekend.

I hope they go back to the 777's eventually, they actually had an A330 not too long ago (the A340-300 was out for that particular day), that was a bit rare, but I love the AF-777's!!

Quoting CptGirmayTesfa (Reply 13):
Someone knows if the AF 747-400 has power outlets for laptops?

http://seatguru.com/airlines/Air_Fra.../Air_France_Boeing_747-400_CIO.php
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:10 am

It's weird how routes are being "upgraded" to a 777 from a 747.
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:21 pm

Quoting Daron4000 (Reply 16):
It's weird how routes are being "upgraded" to a 777 from a 747.

It is weird, but in the case of AF they are clearly changing the focus of their 744s to be high density tourist transporters by removing first class (previously 13 seats), reducing the size of business class (previously 58 seats, to be refitted with either 40 or 17, depending on the aircraft), and increasing the capacity of economy (previously 321 seats, to be refitted with 393 or 457 depending on the aircraft). Personal video screens in economy are almost non-existant, with the exception of a few aircraft.

The 742/743 aircraft will not be refitted and are scheduled to be withdrawn from service by 2007.
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:03 pm

Quoting USflt1778 (Reply 17):
It is weird, but in the case of AF they are clearly changing the focus of their 744s to be high density tourist transporters by removing first class

You are completely correct, and this is clearly demonstrated in the case of Brazil: GIG gets a daily B747 and GRU a daily B777, in other words, the tourist market gets the B747 and the premium market the B777.

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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:57 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 12):
They also have some B747-300s, saw some at ORY last week.

They have two of them: F-GETA and F-GETB which is the one shown on the picture you put in your post. They both come from UTA. Air France has never ordered any 300's fresh out of the factory from Boeing. In other words, Boeing has never built a 747-328.

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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:04 pm

1 B747-200 : F-GCBJ. Will be retired in June 2006. only operated now on ORY-RUN.

4 B747-300 : F-GETA, F-GETB, F-BTDG, FBTDH. Ex UTA a/c. operated only on ORY-FDF & ORY-PTP. To be retired from service in 2006.
F-BTDG/H were initially -200 Combi, converted into -300 Combi. After 1993, converted into all PAX a/c

16 B747-400 all PAX :

F-GEXA & F-GEXB, ex-UTA a/c. F-GEXB is an ex-Combi

F-GITA/B/C/D/E/F/H/I/J.
F-GITG was never taken up by AF and was flown directely from Boeing's airfield to Marana desert. Later sold to Royal Air Maroc and still operated now as CN-RGA

5 ex-Combi :

F-GISA/B/C/D/E.

8 B747-200F + 4 B747-400ERF

During this summer seasons, the AF's B744 fly to :

GIG (Daily), CCS (Daily), SFO (Daily), MEX (4xWeekly), MIA (Daily), LAX-PPT (3xweekly), HAV (4xWeekly), RUN (Daily), PUJ (3xWeekly), SDQ (3xWeekly), JNB (Daily), YUL (Daily), MRU (6xWeekly).
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:26 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 20):
1 B747-200 : F-GCBJ. Will be retired in June 2006. only operated now on ORY-RUN

Ooooops !  crazy  F-GCBJ will be retired in NEXT JUNE 2005 not 2006...
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:28 am

AF will continue to fly the 747-400 for some time because they are perfect for high-traffic summer flying to the USA. That's why during the high season AF flies the 747-400 to SFO, mostly because a lot of French tourists show up at SFO during the summer months on all-inclusive tours.  Smile
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:21 am

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 14):
Only the aircraft with the new J-class seats and those with the (old) first class seats have laptop power.

 no  No Chris ! The B744's with the new "COI" version have laptop power also in "Alizée" Class, at the Upper Deck (57 seats).
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:24 am

Uh oh FlySSC, I was not aware of that ... thank you for making the correction.

In Alizee, isn't it like one laptop power for each 3 seats, something like that?
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:34 am

Quoting Flpuck6 (Reply 24):
In Alizee, isn't it like one laptop power for each 3 seats, something like that?

That's it ! 1 for 3 seats.  thumbsup 
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:13 am

Quoting Aeronuts (Reply 7):
I thought I saw a AF 747-400 at LAX - got pretty close from the AA Eagle bus

You're right.
AF flies 747-400 to LAX on the way to PPT and also once a day on the CDG-LAX flight.
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:58 am

I'm a bit lost in here.

I'm flying to MRU next May, will the B747 that I'm going to take have PTV's?
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:23 am

Quoting Icarus75 (Reply 26):
AF flies 747-400 to LAX on the way to PPT and also once a day on the CDG-LAX flight.

 no 

Only AF070 CDG-LAX-PPT is operated by a B744, 3 x Weekly (Wed, Fri, Sun ).
The DAILY AF 062 + Daily AF072 are operated by a B772ER.

Quoting TAP1972 (Reply 27):
I'm flying to MRU next May, will the B747 that I'm going to take have PTV's?

It will depend on the registration of your a/c. Some B744 are already fiitted with PTV in Y. Some are not.... Not yet ! Maybe you'll be Lucky !


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RE: Air France 747s

Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:16 am

to my understanding the CDG-MEX service will be a daily B772 and 4x weekly B744? which will equal 11x weekly flights.
 
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RE: Air France 747s

Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:46 pm

Quoting Mike1974 (Reply 29):
to my understanding the CDG-MEX service will be a daily B772 and 4x weekly B744? which will equal 11x weekly flights.

I mentionned in my reply#20 the frequencies operated by a B744, not all the frequencies to a destination.

MEX is indeed operated 11XWeekly. But only 4xWeekly but a B744.
YUL is Operated 21xWeekly. But only 1 DAILY B744 (+ 1 Daily B773ER + 1 Daily A343).
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