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1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:51 pm

1st picture of virgin nigeria
http://skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=1860
thanks to EurostarVA for the link

what you guys think of the colourscheme? i am not keen on the green on the engines

[Edited 2005-04-13 09:53:07]
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:55 pm

I think it looks ok. Are the titles in green too? Its a little hard to make it out on the photo.

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:57 pm

That's a nice combination of Virgin red and Nigerian green!  Smile
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:10 pm

I think it looks great! But the green tone could have been darker, grayer, to flow more smoothly with the red.

This is the first A320 LZ-BHD which is on wet-lease from Balkan Holiday Airlines (BH Air), a second one will follow shortly from the same source. For further fleet requirements, Virgin Nigeria is negotiating with Airbus and Boeing for medium/long term requirements and an order may be expected soon.

The media has reported today that Virgin Nigeria would commence commercial flights on April 18th, 2005 with flights to Port Harcourt from its Lagos hub. I don't know if this would be possible as the airline will need to get a confirmation of its provisional IATA code . This can be confirmed by IATA following the release of an Airline Operating Certificate by the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) if the proving flight goes well in Lagos. Flight schedules will also need to be uploaded to the CRS, etc.

The airline has recently announced more vacancies, including Captains and First Officers, and these can be found at:


http://www.phillipsconsulting.net/pdf/Virgin110405.pdf

http://www.resourcing.ng.kpmg.com/virgin.asp
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:59 am

That thing looks rather ugly; the red on the tail looks out of place with the green, but oh well I guess Virgin wasn't gonna do away with the trademark tail..

So this is the "Nigerian" airline we might be seeing at major aiports eventually.. yawn.
 
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:05 am

what kind of engines are those? they look bigger then the IAE V2500's that B6 uses
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:56 am

Will Virgin Nigeria become the flag carrier for Nigeria? Which (if any) Nigerian airlines will they compete with?

Thanks for the info SoAps

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:06 am

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 5):
what kind of engines are those? they look bigger then the IAE V2500's that B6 uses

They are cfm-56 engines.
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:17 am

It looks okay, I just hope VS don't go with that refont on the tail on the rest of their airlines!

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:22 am

Horus,

The Nigerian government has officially designated Virgin Nigeria flag carrier status. In fact, they granted the new carrier exclusive route rights on some international lucrative routes for seven years. This means, no other Nigerian carrier will be allowed to operate alongside Virgin Nigeria on the lucrative routes. This was a measure to attract a foreign strategic investor more easily. The routes on which they will enjoy a Nigerian monopoly are:

- Lagos - London
- Lagos - Johannesburg
- Lagos - Jeddah
- Lagos - Dubai
- Lagos - New York

Domestically, there are roughly a dozen or so established and privately-owned carriers which will have a tough time competing with Virgin Nigeria. They have been operating in a harsh environment, with little access to capital (funding), technology, etc. Some of these airlines are:

- Bellview Airlines (737, 767), flies international routes as well
- Aero (737-300), flies international routes as well: www.acn.aero
- ADC Airlines (737), flies international routes as well www.adcairlines.com
- Sosoliso Airlines (MD80, DC-9) www.sosolisoairline.com
- IRS Airlines (Fokker 100)
- Chanchangi (727, 737) www.chanchangi-airlines.com
- Dasab Airlines (727)
- SpaceWorld (737-200)
- EAS Airlines (737-200)
- Albaraka (727)

Most of the airlines listed above are not IATA members and don't publish their flight schedules with OAG or Amadeus.

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:03 am

how much does Mr. Branson have in shares of this company??Will it be part of the Virgin Family or just the name was given?
HOw much does the Nigerian government controls the company???

when will it start flying?
how about Virgin America, when will they fly?
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:21 am

Virgin Nigeria is a private-sector investment initiative promoted by the Nigerian government. Virgin Atlantic was selected last year as strategic investor in this new Nigerian flag carrier, after competing with a bid from South African Airways.

Virgin Atlantic Airways holds a 49% stake while the rest was distributed in a private placement to various Nigerian institutional investors including banks, insurance and other companies. Shortly after launch, institutional investors will be required to sell half their shares to the public via an Initial Public Offering (IPO) on the Nigerian Stock Exchange.

The airline is now hiring a second wave of recruits and its first commercial flight may take off next week according to media reports published today. They will start with domestic/regional flights (with routes to Abuja, Accra, Port Harcourt) and grow with time to cover long haul routes to Europe, US and the Middle East (Dubai, Johannesburg, London, New York, etc)

More information is available at the airline's preliminary website which is now more of a facts sheet: www.virginnigeria.com

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:43 am

By the looks of it, Nigeria is where Boeing 737-200s go to get a second lease on life.
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 3):
This can be confirmed by IATA following the release of an Airline Operating Certificate by the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) if the proving flight goes well in Lagos. Flight schedules will also need to be uploaded to the CRS, etc.

Can't Virgin Nigeria fly under Virgin Atlantic's AOC? I remember Air Scotland operated under the AOC of Air Holland.
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:54 am

It would look better if they made the whole tail green... But it still looks very good  Smile
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:01 am

I wish we would get a Virgin France soon............ There is so much room for other carriers here and there are only 2 main operators, AF and EZY.... and trains here are always packed, cramped and way to hot..

Just wishing....

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:12 am

NO, NO, NO. It just looks like a Virgin aircraft leased out
 
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:48 am

Well Virgin Nigeria is really happening. The fuselage needs a bit more colour
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:39 pm

What ever happened to that silver bird on the front of the fuselage? It was on the A320 on the homepage of Virgin Nigeria, but in the photo, it's not there.
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:26 pm

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 13):
Can't Virgin Nigeria fly under Virgin Atlantic's AOC? I remember Air Scotland operated under the AOC of Air Holland.

I doubt that very much as I don't think NCAA regulations would allow a Nigerian carrier flying on a foreign airline's AOC.

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 18):
What ever happened to that silver bird on the front of the fuselage? It was on the A320 on the homepage of Virgin Nigeria, but in the photo, it's not there.

Yes, I would have liked to see this eagle on the fuselage as well as it adds more Nigerian character to the livery (which by the way SHOULD reflect the Virgin identity as the airline in using the Virgin brand afterall)
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:31 pm

Nice colors! The green had to be there for it to make sense. Of course it still has the noticeable Virgin tail.
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:41 pm

This isnt exactly the best photo shoot as the skies are overcast and the conditions arent no nice for marketing purposes !  raincloud 
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:22 pm

So obviously their using 320's for their initial routes which are all in western africa, but are they going to be using the 320s on all other African routes as well? What about planned services to Europe, Middle East, and the US? All but the latter could *theoretically* use 320s but obviously the US is going to be different? Has the future fleet been announced?thanks
 
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:36 pm

[quote=EurostarVA,reply=9]ADC Airlines (737), flies international routes as well [/quote
Sorry to get slightly off, but regarding ADC, on their website they apparently only fly Internationally to LBV. Last Year I spoke with Captain Omame, CEO of ADC airlines and he told me that they were expecting to be able to fly LOS-ACC "pretty soon". This was last April, so would you know if there have been any developments regarding this?
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regarding the Virgin Nigeria pic, I honestly think it looks awful. That green with the red just don't combine properly ... maybe leaving the tail white with "virgin" in green?

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Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:40 pm

Can someone explain me why Nigeria has failed to establish an efficient flag carrier of its own? Sad, the resources seem theoretically tb available. I am just astonished that they need a partner like Virgin for their operations, keeping in mind that their national flag carrier is kind of foreign owned (and profits going to Branson).. I hope this is not a global trend
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Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:53 pm

green and red... christmas season......
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:32 pm

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 23):
Sorry to get slightly off, but regarding ADC, on their website they apparently only fly Internationally to LBV. Last Year I spoke with Captain Omame, CEO of ADC airlines and he told me that they were expecting to be able to fly LOS-ACC "pretty soon". This was last April, so would you know if there have been any developments regarding this?

I don't think ADC would be allowed to fly to Accra as the number of Nigerian carriers on the route is stretched (Aerocontractor flies 1 or 2 daily flights, Bellview flies daily at least and now Virgin Nigeria is recruiting ground staff in Accra for flight to Ghana). Besides, NCAA granted Accra route rights to one or two privately owned carriers, not more and ADC Airline was not included I believe. ADC was granted Brussels, Libreville, Abidjan, Dakar, Bamako (if my memory doesnt fail me).

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 24):
Can someone explain me why Nigeria has failed to establish an efficient flag carrier of its own? Sad, the resources seem theoretically tb available. I am just astonished that they need a partner like Virgin for their operations, keeping in mind that their national flag carrier is kind of foreign owned (and profits going to Branson).. I hope this is not a global trend

Corruption, greed, mismanagement and theft. If you ask me, Virgin's entry into Nigeria's airline industry is a positive development, it brings in desperately needed know-how, techology, global standards, and the public will benefit from a transformed airline industry in Nigeria. It's a private sector initiative which will provide much needed jobs and no, not all the profits will be repatriated to the UK as the airline is 51% owned by Nigerian interests.
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:27 am

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 26):
(Aerocontractor flies 1 or 2 daily flights, Bellview flies daily at least and now Virgin Nigeria

Aerocontractors are flying 3x per week with a Dash 8, Bellview is 1-2x daily with B732

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:13 am

I have an uncle, whom I didn't know I had, in Nigeria. He has now passed away, and I'm inheriting $50 million from him! I only need to travel there, and give a nominal amount of $1 million as a guarantee. I'm rich!!!!! How lucky and happy I am! This is like a dream! Nobody will believe this!

Do you think it would be good idea to invest a part of the money in any of those airlines? And which one should I use when traveling over there?

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:28 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 15):
wish we would get a Virgin France soon............ There is so much room for other carriers here and there are only 2 main operators, AF and EZY.... and trains here are always packed, cramped and way to hot..

Just wishing....

Be patient my friend... Transavia is in final talks with Air France in order to start a LCC operation in France.

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:02 am

FFlyer,

Sounds like a 419 scam.... I mean give $ 1 million as 'guarantee'?? What's that supposed to mean? If you're serious please send me a private e-mail.
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:25 am

Eurostar; thanks! I was just joking. I have received so many of those letters, that I couldn't resist when I saw "Nigeria" in the heading.
 
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:30 am

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 28):
I'm inheriting $50 million from him! I only need to travel there, and give a nominal amount of $1 million as a guarantee

Dude!

That's pretty lucky, but I've got one up on you. In the last week THREE uncles I didn't know I had died. Each has left $50million for me! Now I can do a Travolta...
 
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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:09 am

Hi Guy's!

Here is the picture on Planepictures.net

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=323684&count=false

Look great, just maybe different titles.

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RE: 1st Picture Of Virgin Nigeria A320

Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:15 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 24):
Can someone explain me why Nigeria has failed to establish an efficient flag carrier of its own?

Basically, due to mind-numbing unbridled corruption. With its oil wealth, Nigeria should have a flourishing international carrier.

Is it only me, or do others also think that this Virgin Nigeria venture could sink into the same insipid pit of kickbacks, corruption, bankruptcy and incompetent management, not to mention horrible customer service?
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