keta
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US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:42 am

Until today, you couldn't smoke on airplanes, but you could carry on your lighter. This will be prohibited from tomorrow.

According to Reuters, "the Transportation Security Administration, responding to a congressional order, said passengers cannot carry butane, battery powered or other lighters on themselves or in carry-on bags after April 14"

However, you still can carry matches with you, but that may also change: "The Transportation Security Administration is still considering a ban on matches"

And all this, of course, due to the possibility of a terrorist attack: "Proponents said it was necessary to reduce the chance that someone could ignite a bomb or incendiary device on a commercial flight"  bomb 

You have the full article here: http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1109618478.html

Each day we're allowed to carry less things with us, that's for our security, but do you really think that lighters are such dangerous? And will other countries adopt this law too?

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sjg
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting Keta (Thread starter):
Each day we're allowed to carry less things with us,

Last week the regulations in the UK were actually eased, and sharp items like scissors were allowed back on board. The airlines are now also allowed to use proper metal cutlery again instead of plastic ones.

The full story is here:

BBC News

Not sure whether there are any plans to review policy on lighters and matches though.
 
Birdwatching
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:40 am

This is weird: While TSA searched my checked luggage last week and found a swiss army knife, (note: CHECKED luggage) the lady said something like "soon you won't even be allowed to take these into your checked luggage" or so.

Question: WHY?
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UAalltheway
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:16 am

That's been around forever. Do you know if matches will still be allowed/"permitted" onboard?
 
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:20 am

Next item is stiletto heels!

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satx
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:03 pm

I was thinking the next item would be ballpoint pens. But hey, maybe you could kill somebody with a lighter faster than with a ballpoint pen. Hmm. Nah, I still say the ball point pen would be faster.
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hawk44
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:00 pm

Quoting Keta (Thread starter):
And all this, of course, due to the possibility of a terrorist attack: "Proponents said it was necessary to reduce the chance that someone could ignite a bomb or incendiary device on a commercial flight"

A little silly since most explosives can be detonated with a wrist watch, kind of like what was used on Philippine Airlines 434

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sjg
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:10 pm

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 6):
A little silly since most explosives can be detonated with a wrist watch, kind of like what was used on Philippine Airlines 434

Which brings us to the sad conclusion - if you really want to blow up a plane, there are lots of ways of doing it Sad.

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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:32 pm

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 3):
Do you know if matches will still be allowed/"permitted" onboard?

Matches will be allowed, but only in your pocket, NOT in your carry- on bag ...  banghead 
 
aviationwiz
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:45 pm

Jeesh, they should just ban the matches altogether.
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isitsafenow
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:09 pm

Lets see now, The US Government says we cannot take lighters on the plane with us BUT we can take matches....hmmmmmmm
And these are the same people we trust with our social security savings, right?
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FlySSC
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:12 pm

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 10):
The US Government says we cannot take lighters on the plane with us BUT we can take matches....hmmmmmmm

Yep ! kids can take guns to school but NO MORE LIGHTERS on board aircraft...!  scratchchin 
 
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:16 pm

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 3):
Do you know if matches will still be allowed/"permitted" onboard?

Some time ago, at MIA, I was carrying some "matches" in my luggage. I was advised by the security agent [the one who checked your luggage just after the counter] that they are forbidden. They took them away.

TA web site is announcing that the lighters are banned also.
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airbazar
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:11 pm

Another moronic law made by clueless people who unfortunatelly are in charge of our security. Apparently these guys don't know that most explosives that could be used on a plane, are detonated electronically. Just ask PanAm.
 
keta
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:10 am

Quoting Sjg (Reply 1):
Last week the regulations in the UK were actually eased, and sharp items like scissors were allowed back on board. The airlines are now also allowed to use proper metal cutlery again instead of plastic ones

Wow that's good news! A month ago I flew MAD-BIO and they confiscated my scissors!!  Angry
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TACAA320
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:14 am

Quoting Keta (Reply 14):
Wow that's good news! A month ago I flew MAD-BIO and they confiscated my scissors!!

A scissors may be harmful even deathful.
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Bridogger6
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:19 am

Oh yay! Today should be a fun day at the ticket counter making all you corporate whores (yes that's what I call smokers.. they really are whores to corporations.. needlessly wasting money on something that is not even close to necessary for survival.. sorry, I don't hate smokers.. just the act of smoking!) throw out your lighters! Whew I am so not looking forward to it.. stupid TSA just keep people happy. Sure, we'd like to be safe, but you know, if everyone is protesting what you're doing, it seems like it's time to loosen up a little bit and let the American public take risks again.. hey it's what we want!

So anyway, throw away your lights now or leave them at home before coming to the airport today, I don't need you all causing a scene when you can't have your smokes in the airport terminal anymore! Better yet, just by a lighter beyond security.
 
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RE: US To Ban Lighters On Planes

Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:23 am

This is yet another case of our personal liberties being taken away by the Thousands Standing Around. When are we going to rise up and Ban the TSA?

I am not a smoker, but the idea of each liberty being taken away is getting me more and more angry. I did carry a lighter I got from Lacuna Coil last summer up in Michigan when I flew back to Florida, it was a souvenier one too and I would have been pissed if some ratboy TSA agent confiscated it. I am beginning to not buy into this terrorism stuff anymore. When Richard Reid tried to light his shoes in 2001, why didn't they do it back then? It would have made more sense instead of waiting until Mid 2005 to do it. This was never an issue before. Have any planes caught fire due to a checked lighter going off? I don't seem to remember any.

I do remember 9-11 before anyone tries to remind me of it, but it has gotten to the point where 9-11 is the excuse for every liberty being banned.

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