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I Need Detailed LAX Approach Information

Mon Apr 10, 2000 1:08 am

I need some detailed information about approaches into LAX from
the east. I am currently building a flight simulation where I am
employed of an approach and landing at LAX using DEM and
digital ortho imagery (on a Microstation SE platform for those
who care). The simulation flight is going to start 5 miles from
the airport.

The problem is I don't exactly how aircraft make an approach
into LAX. Do they arrive in a stair step pattern, dropping and
maintaning specific altitudes in 1000ft intervals or do they arrive
in a slope fashion, constantly decreasing their altitude?

So what I need is detailed information about a typical
approach into LAX. Beginning from 5 miles away, I need to know
at what altitudes are flow and for how long (distances given from
the airport would help greatly) and at what point (and altitude) does
the pilot begin descending at a certain rate until touchdown?

The more real I can make this the better the chance the FAA would
be interested in it and maybe I can get some $$$ to get additional
imagery and build some more simulations for other airports. I can't
seem to find anything on the web about this, so I'd thought I'd
try here...

Thanks in advance!

Mark Abbott
Minneapolis, MN
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RE: I Need Detailed LAX Approach Information

Mon Apr 10, 2000 4:55 am

Check these out. I've included a visual and ils plate for approach to 24R. Don't use these for real world navigation, as I have not checked their authencity.
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RE: I Need Detailed LAX Approach Information

Mon Apr 10, 2000 5:15 am

What you need are the instrument approach plates for LAX. You need the STARs and all the approaches for each runway. Also, starting from 5 miles away will be of no interest to most people. It's usually quite simple to continue from the 5 mile point to the airport. You should probably start from somewhere in the range of 200 to 500 miles away. I have never looked at STARs for LAX, but I imagine that they would start around that distance. You can obtain these plates from the NOAA or Jeppesen, but you have to pay for them. You could also find an instrument rated pilot who flys in the area and could give you copies of his plates, also, you could look on the internet for STARs and/or instrument approach plates.

Another thing to consider is that a simulation like this will be of no use if you don't keep up with all the constant modifications. My approach plates for the northwest are updated every 28 days and there are many changes (most small) every time. In a simulation like this that was ment as a real training device, you would have to have readily available updates for it to keep the approach info current.

I'd be happy to be a consultant for this type of thing (email of course) if you want help reading the charts or planning it out.
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RE: I Need Detailed LAX Approach Information

Mon Apr 10, 2000 9:19 am

Call up Sporty's Pilot Shop in Ohio, their number is 800-543-8633, and tell them you need NOAA approach plate book #W-2 (it covers all of California), and it will give you the STAR's, SID's, ILS's, other instrument approaches, as well as an airport diagram. With postage, it'll only set you back about 8 bucks. Good luck.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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