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Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:39 am

In general can you bring your own alcohol on flights, like in your handbaggage to consume onboard (obviously I'm talking economy) ...or is this a real no no ?
I could understand glass being out but what about plastic bottles?
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:02 am

You may bring your own alcohol, such as duty free liquor on board the aircraft but it is definitely against the rules to consume your own alcohol. In fact in many countries, such as Canada, it is against the law. Consuming your own alcohol on board the aircraft will likely result in a visit with the local authorities upon arrival.
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:06 am

No, you can't. I've read it several times on airline's websites and in inflight magazines. Too much risk of the cabin becoming a Bierzelt... I suppose you know what this is, even if you're not german, habe ich recht?
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:34 pm

My girlfriend and I once brought a chilled bottle of Moët onboard an EZY-flight from ZRH to LTN. Crew took it easy, no worried faces even when the cork popped.
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:12 pm

Strictly against FARs to consumer your own alcohol aboard an airplane in the United States. Even when I was flying on Virgin Atlantic, the crew found out that the lady next to me was consuming scotch from her own bottle. They told her to put it away or they would confiscate it. When they saw that later she continued to consumer from it they took it from her. It created quiet a ruckus as she was very argumentative. I was in the enviable position of being in the middle of it all as she was in the window and I was in the aisle seat.
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:19 pm

It was my understanding that one could consume one's own alcohol, but not serve oneself. I have seen numerous times someone presenting a bottle to the FA and asking that the FA serve them their own tipple. Does the FAR prohibit serving oneself or consuming one's own?
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:21 pm

I read once in an in-flight magazine (Condor I think it was), that you were not allowed to consume alcoholic beverages purschased on board, it made me laugh because if you wanted a beer or wine with your dinner, you had to purchase it. Of course they meant duty-free, but it was still amusing.

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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:06 pm

Technically, I believe (at least in the US) the restriction is on not serving yourself - you can request that a FA serve you from your own bottle. I took a beer (the last of a six-pack of Newcastle Brown I'd had in my hotel room) on a flight once, and the FA was perfectly happy to open it for me, especially after I assured her it was the only one I had. Also had a friend ask that he and his fiancee be served their own champagne flying down to Florida for their wedding - the FAs were happy to do it.

I suspect that except for special occasions (or the occasional lone beer), the FAs are probably instructed to decline to serve passengers from their own bottles, both because of the hassle factor (they'd either have to watch them very closely once the bottle was opened, or take the bottle(s) or cans to the galley to avoid scenes like 737-990's experience) and because it would cut into the airline's alcohol revenue.
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:18 pm

Of course it's allowed. I always bring my own food and ( alcoholic ) drinks like wine and beer. With me many other pax did the same, especially on LCC's.

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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:35 pm

I flew LYS-STN earlier this year with EZY and a few of the people I was traveling with took some beer on with them (I didn't as I suspected it probably was not allowed). The F/A said that it was technically against regulations (I am not sure which ones, international, national or in house) but as they really did not look like trouble makers they could finish what they were drinking as long as they did not open anymore.
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:01 am

Here is what FAR 121.575 says about serving alcohol. FAR 121 is the operational requirements for US airlines.

FAR 121.575
Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...y/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 10):

Again one of those stupid laws. In the end the pax still ends up with a beer or wine, so whats the difference? allow it or forbid it, but not in between!

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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:02 am

Quoting KL911 (Reply 11):
In the end the pax still ends up with a beer or wine, so whats the difference?

The difference is that the cabin crew has control over HOW MUCH the passenger consumes when the alcohol is provided by the airline.
How would you like it if your flight was diverted, and you missed your connection, to remove a drunk passenger because he consumed the bottle that he brought on board?

Do bars and restaurants that serve alcohol allow you to bring your own booze?
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:29 am

A few months ago I read on the Royal Brunei website that they don't serve alcohol but that passengers are allowed to bring their own alcoholic drinks onboard.

I never heard that other airlines allow this.

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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:36 am

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 12):
Do bars and restaurants that serve alcohol allow you to bring your own booze?

Many restaurants allow patrons to bring their own wine. Such restaurant usually charges a "corking fee", though, to offset loss of revenue.

Cruise ships usually ban outside alcohol as well, but many have clauses in there that allow a passenger to bring wine or champagne (usually just one or two bottles) on at embarkation. They also charge a "corking fee" if you drink it in a restaurant. For example, here's Carnival's policy. Officially, it's to prevent drinking by minors (which is a good point) and to control drunks (a weaker point, given how much I've seen people drink on cruise ships.)

In reality, I suspect it has just as much to do with their profit margins, just as with airlines. (Although given the narrow confines of a plane, the "control drunks" argument is a lot stronger with a plane.)
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:42 am

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 14):
Many restaurants allow patrons to bring their own wine. Such restaurant usually charges a "corking fee", though, to offset loss of revenue.

In 99% of cases it's because they don't serve their own either by choice or a local licensing issue....which is as mentioned earlier..."Do bars and restaurants that serve alcohol allow you to bring your own booze?"

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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:43 am

Not on United...and probably most other U.S. carriers. Although the F.A.R states that the customer must be served by the certificate holder, United's policy is that alcohol may only be consumed onboard that is provided by the airline. F/A's are not allowed to confiscate a passenger's own bottle and then serve it to them.
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:25 am

It's against the Air Navigation Order in the UK for any passenger to consume alocohol which hasn't been served by the cabin crew. How technical you want to get about served is another matter. As far as I can see most UK airlines define it as you can only consume airline stock. Not only can the crew monitor how much you're drinking, but also be confident that what is served is what it says on the bottle. Avoids the problem of people spiking their drinks!! Certainly on the UK airlines I've worked for, anyone found to be consuming their own alcohol (even on flights with a complimentary bar where it would be in the airline's financial interest for you not to take the free stuff!) anyone found drinking their own is asked to stop. If the passenger refuses or continues later, then the alcohol is confiscated and returned upon landing. Have had one cheeky bugger rooting around through the galley while we were out with the meal service trying to find the bottle of vodka we'd taken off him. Unbeknown to him we'd put it in a lockable stowage. Needless to say he had a chat with the boys in blue when we'd landed!!
 
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RE: Bringing Your Own Booze On Flights?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:37 am

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 14):
Cruise ships usually ban outside alcohol as well, but many have clauses in there that allow a passenger to bring wine or champagne (usually just one or two bottles) on at embarkation.

A few years ago I took a Royal Caribbean cruise out of San Juan, PR. There was a large liquor store located within the ocean terminal, next to the ship which is only accessible to cruise passengers. People were lined up in the store buying and carrying cases of beer onto the ship. I bought a case of beer and had no trouble carrying it on.
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