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Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:13 am

Hello all,

With my new 'local' airport starting (EU only!) flights next Thursday, I wondered if anyone in here had any knowledge of prior aircraft movements in and out of the airport?

As I understand it, Thomsonfly are basing 3x 733 and 1x 738 aircraft there to begin with, more following.

I'd just like to get down there with the camera to see the 'first' flights before operations fully start.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:22 am

Has the Robin Hood title been dropped yet? Everyone here is still taking the mickey out of that stupid name. Us Yorkshire folk will be calling it Donny airport.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:26 am

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 1):
Has the Robin Hood title been dropped yet?

unfortunately not. Though tour operators and everyone else seem to now be simply referring to it as DSA, similar to how they do LBA I guess.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:35 pm

The first TOM flight departs around 9:00am to Palma, first flight arriving if FR from Dublin at around midday on the 28/4/2005.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:34 pm

Thanks A3221fly,

I know the schedules though, I was really wondering about flights before next Thurs. Presumably, the aircraft are going to be ferried in over the next few days, assuming they haven't already.

I read somewhere the other day that a Waddington based AWACS had been in for some reason.

I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the state of play re aircraft at the minute.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:22 am

A Thomsonfly 737 arrived a few weeks ago for a mock emergency!!!
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:59 am

I would have thought aircraft would not arrive until the day before or even early on 28th, i dont think they would want them parked there for days.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:51 am

I've just come across this website if anyone is interested:

http://www.finningley.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Looks as though they have their CAA license now (as of 19th), so can start the non-EU flights. Talk about cutting it fine.........

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:31 am

Thomson Holidays will also operate flights with Boeing 757's from May 1st from Doncaster to Mediterannean/Canary Islands destinations.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:53 pm

Yeah apparently a few Thomsonfly aircraft are due in a few days prior to the airport opening. The only time I will be there though will be on the open day of the airport, inbound on the first FR flight DUB-DSA Big grin. From that day onwards I will finally have aircraft on finals to an airport other than SZD going over my house at low level!!! Big grin
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:14 pm

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:25 pm

Hey there,


Regarding the ThomsonFly Aircraft, here is what is to be based at Doncaster:

G-THOG - BOEING 737-300
G-THOH - BOEING 737-300 - DUE APRIL 5th
G-THOI - BOEING 737-300 - DUE MAY 3rd
G-THOJ - BOEING 737-300
G-CDZN - BOEING 737-800 - DUE APRIL 26th

Its Looking good, I can't wait for Doncaster to open!



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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:37 am

There is currentlt a Thomsonfly B737 at the airport.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:28 am

Oly720man,

I've been looking into this a bit more. The flights on Tuesday are for airline and airport staff. They are about 30 mins in length.

Does anyone know if there are any scheduled to go out in the afternoon? The two I found times for are in the morning. I might head down there and check the place out on Tuesday if there's anything to see, if not it will be Thursday evening.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:54 am

Hey Tim, the 4 737s will be arriving on Tuesday as you say, and will be doing a couple of flights in the morning for staff.

There will be a flight at 9:15 for half an hour, and another at 11.15.

Not sure of any flights in the afternoon or evening but I might see you up there.

I will definitely be up there Thursday also, with some friends.

If you wish to contact me here is my email address. cheesy_peas@blueyonder.co.uk

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:48 am

Well I'll definitely be down there to see the opening of a new UK Airport, Will be at the airport for 1000am and leaving around 1635..enougth time to get me "round" the airport to check out the facilities and anything that arrives.
Hope to see anyone whos down there on Thurs, already got my timetable sorted out and revised, will be arriving from Stockport if anyone from MAN is also thinking of going down.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:17 am

There is a Monarch Airlinea B757 there at the moment?
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:58 am

Excuse my ignorance but where is Doncaster airport ?? Is this not Sheffield airport you're referring just off The Parkway ?

Confuzzled.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:21 am

Its on the out edge of Doncaster the Ex. RAF Finnelgly airbase.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:06 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 17):
Excuse my ignorance but where is Doncaster airport ?? Is this not Sheffield airport you're referring just off The Parkway ?

No, That is Sheffield City Airport your referring to, which is pretty much dead now.

Doncaster Sheffield airport is the UKs newest airport, opening Thursday this week, (28th). It is based on an old RAF base, used by vulcans during the later wars.

Currently Thompsonfly and a few other holiday carriers will be based there, but the runway is big enough for larger operations, @ ~2900m.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:28 am

how long is the runway vs that at NCL?
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:34 am

So we now have Sheffield City airport and now Doncaster Sheffield airport ? You're taking the piss right ?

How can it be Doncaster Sheffield airport considering the two are nowhere near each other ? That's like saying Liverpool Manchester airport.

Crackers.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:54 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 21):
So we now have Sheffield City airport

Sheffield City is likely to close within a few years and be turned into a business park, so maybe they are thinking for the future.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:40 am

Quoting A321fly (Reply 22):
Sheffield City is likely to close within a few years and be turned into a business park, so maybe they are thinking for the future.

It's only been open two minutes!

Cheers,

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:43 am

Hello everyone again,

I hadn't realized there had been any more replies to this thread.

I had intended to go down to DSA today (Tues) to see some of the TOM 737s flying about. Anyway it looks as though a BY 757 positioned in from LGW to do the staff trips and then only one TOM 737 landed after 3pm. I have a mountain of other things to do this week, so it might be Saturday before I'm across. I hope the weather holds out for all you guys who are going to be there on Thurs!

Had a ride across last Saturday and it looks as though there are some potentially good spots for photography.

NCLairport, the operational runway length is 9000ft off the top of my head, not sure what it is at NCL.

Quoting RobK (Reply 21):
How can it be Doncaster Sheffield airport considering the two are nowhere near each other ? That's like saying Liverpool Manchester airport.

Or Nottingham East Midlands  Wink


Speak to you all soon.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:19 pm

Quoting NCLairport (Reply 20):

The Runway at Newcastle as I'm sure you will know is 7650ft.

Currently the operational length at Finningley/DSA is 9500ft / 2893M.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:28 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 21):
So we now have Sheffield City airport and now Doncaster Sheffield airport ? You're taking the piss right ?

How can it be Doncaster Sheffield airport considering the two are nowhere near each other ? That's like saying Liverpool Manchester airport.

Sheffield City is closing as a result of the new airport.

Actually the two cities are very close to each other - its a very quick run down the M18 to get from one to the other - and the airport is inbetween the two.

The main reason for the Sheffield name is that it is the main city in South Yorkshire and it is expected that the bulk of the people using the new airport will be from there.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:34 pm

Well whatever the name, it beats the hell out of Robin Hood airport!
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:30 pm

I noticed on some pics that they have got "Robin Hood Airport" in big letters across the front of the terminal.

Surely "Doncaster-Sheffield" would have been preferable?

I hate the "Robin Hood" name with a passion.

I might have a spare hour this afternoon, so I'm thinking of having a ride to the airport to see if anything is happening. Does anyone know of any movements today?

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:44 pm

Nothing for sure, but the rest of the fleet to be based there could be flying in for tomorrows first flights could be flying in today, but it will be more likely that they will come tomorrow morning.

Are you going up tomorrow?
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:34 pm

RobK,

Sheffield City SZD more or less closed after 9-11. Until then, there were of course several BA links to the rest of the UK, and KLM service to Amsterdam. It´s a pity because when I decided to study at Sheffield Uni, BA were serving Belfast and it was extremely convenient, but of course as soon as I confirmed my place there BA pulled it and so it´s been a trek to MAN or LPL since. This new airport makes sense, as apart from anything else SZD was simply too small to expand even without 9-11.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:49 am

The problem with SZD is that the runway is only long enough to handle aircraft up to the size of an Avro RJ, with no room for expansion and too many residential areas nearby. A pity really. I have seen a lot of GA going in and out lately as I've been driving on the Parkway.

Kieron, I live just outside Barnsley. As it turned out I didn't have time to get across today but my dad called on his way back from working in Grimsby. Apparently, the police moved him on for parking near the end of runway 02. Some "traffic offence" excuse was being used to shift everyone, but he says the inspector said to him it was a nonsense and only being used as they had been ordered to do so, as the powers that be are frightened with the new airport opening.

I expected the security forces to be on edge a bit at first, but I hope this isn't a precedent.

I ask myself, what are they gonna be able to do when you park your car further down the road and walk there - sweet FA.

Anyway, it might be Saturday lunchtime before I'm across. I've just been looking at my timetable and it looks as though tomorrow there will no movements between 18:00 and 22:05! It'll be after 6 when I could be there, so might give it a miss.


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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:11 am

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 31):
live just outside Barnsley

Its been some years since i lived outside barnsley, ended up moving to get nearer my job.

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 31):
"traffic offence"

whatever, like said they are scared thats things will go wrong, Manchester manage a viewing park within meters of the taxiway's and runways so i cannot see why there should be non provided at DSA.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:45 am

I'd like to ask a few questions regarding Doncaster-Sheffield Airport (I agree that the Robin Hood name truly is a dumb one!). I find this interesting because I have relatives in Sheffield.

How much passenger traffic is it capable of handling?
Will there be any widebodies flying there? Will it ever handle international flights, charter or otherwise?
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:54 am

Quoting Samurai 777 (Reply 33):
Will there be any widebodies flying there? Will it ever handle international flights, charter or otherwise?

Charter Long Haul from next year with B767-300's, up to then B737-300's and a B737-800 all charters and low cost.
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:40 am

In light of the latest tax increase at Calgary Airport, I've voted to change it's name to the Sheriff of Nottingham Airport...
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:06 am

Quoting A321fly (Reply 32):
whatever, like said they are scared that things will go wrong, Manchester manage a viewing park within meters of the taxiway's and runways so i cannot see why there should be non provided at DSA.

It's just in this one area at the end of the runway, where you can pull off the road and have a good view across the airfield, as it's more elevated. Load of crap if you ask me, and I'm not sure whether they were acting legally or not in moving people on. Basically, as this stretch of road is "historically" double yellowed, it is an offence to pull across the double yellows to park on the rough ground beyond them  boggled  I can see me falling out with the police if they try this one on me at the weekend.

Apparently (the inspector (no less) told my dad) they are using this as an excuse because the superiors in the South Yorks. police don't want people hanging around in this area because of the "potential threat" they pose. What a load of crap! The only thing to do is park the car 250yds down the road and walk to this spot, then they can't do a thing about you being there. How annoying that some prick has thought this one up! Honestly, do they think that by having drivers moved on they are preventing a terrorist attack? If so I think it's funny they can't do anything about pedestrians being there!

Anyway, end of rant.

A321fly, I emailed Peel Holdings about 12 months ago about provisions for a viewing area, quoting MAN as an example. I thought this would have some resonance, seen as though MAN aiport own HUY and Peel own LPL. Nothing came of it unfortunately, I just got an email back saying there were no "specific" plans, but that they would like at some point to honour the former RAF base in some way.

Quoting Samurai 777 (Reply 33):
How much passenger traffic is it capable of handling?
Will there be any widebodies flying there? Will it ever handle international flights, charter or otherwise?

Forget all the hype, I have it on (very) good authority that the airport aims to be operating at a rate of 2.5 million passengers a year within the first 12 months of operation. Whether this will be achieved or not, time will tell. Long haul operations are starting to Florida and the Caribbean in October (presumably with a BY 763) and they are desperate to get a trans-Atlantic scheduled carrier in too, again CO have been strongly hinted at, but nothing has been publicly confirmed.


I might still get across to have a nosy on Thurs, though it's looking as though it will be Saturday lunch now.

I'll keep my eyes open if any of you out there will be around.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:38 pm

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:21 am

Did anybody who went today take any pics? i know the weather wasn't great this morning but I'm sure there would have been a few photo opportunities, or even a video.

If anybody did then could you post some, or email them, as I didn't get chance to get there today, probably be there this weekend though.

Cheers guys.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:47 am

The first Ryanair flight into there was on a 737-200!

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:49 am

Yes the joy of getting on board EI-CNV instead of the expected new 738, plus a 45 minute delay, nevermind, was a great expirience been one of the first through arrivals Big grin. I have a few shots online elsewhere, I did upload a shot here of a Thomsonfly 735 G-THOG touching down on runway 20 from the 28th but it has not been screened yet.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Sun May 01, 2005 9:32 am

Hello everyone again,

Went down to the airport this afternoon. Absolutely brilliant. I'm pleased there are so many spots where I can get with the camera, as I was a little worried at first as to whether photography was going to be possible in a big way.

Anyway, here is a shot to have a look at. If any of you have read the Photography forum, you'll see I'm having problems with editing at the moment, but I thought I'd just like to share this one anyway for those of you who were there, or wanted to be there today  biggrin 

http://timgoodwin.myphotoalbum.com/v..._albumName=album06&id=DSAeicnv1200

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Sun May 01, 2005 10:13 am

Tim,
How easy is it to get to the airport on public transport, and are there any good photo spots within walking distance of the terminal building? I want to bring my camera down and check DSA out but don't have a car so it'd be a train from Bradford then a bus. A pain in the backside but it has to be done I guess!

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Sun May 01, 2005 6:32 pm

Paul,

From Donny train station it's about a 5 minute walk to the bus station. From here take the No. 191 bus to Finningley village. I think they leave every hour, on the hour, but I haven't done it so can't say for certain.

When you get into Finningley, get off near the duck pond and walk down a road that goes of the main road to the right. About a ten minute walk down here brings you along the perimeter fence. You can walk all the way down from one end of the runway to the other and there are some mounds to stand on where you have a clear view over the fence. It's not a problem though just to stick the lens up to the fence and shoot through it.

I wouldn't bother with the terminal side at all as yet, it's still pretty much a building site. There are some areas on that side where it is possible to get to take pictures, but even with the car it's a 20 minute walk.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon May 02, 2005 3:36 am

Hi,

G-THOG was at Amsterdam, then it arrived at Bournemouth, and parked round the hangars, then it was seen at Glasgow Prestwick doing training.

Is it at Robin Hoods airport??

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon May 02, 2005 5:29 am

Jimmi,

Yes it's at Robin Hood. Just seen it leave about 3 hours ago for CDG. Got quite a nice shot of it climbing. I'll try and post when I've had chance to have a mess with it.

Tim.

P.S. THOH is there as well and a Hola 757 operating BY charters.
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon May 02, 2005 6:59 am

I still see no need for an airport at Doncaster?!?!!?!
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon May 02, 2005 9:25 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 46):
I still see no need for an airport at Doncaster?!?!!?!

Then open your eyes  Wink

There's a population of 6 million within an hours drive, most of whom at the moment drive across the Pennines to MAN or down the M1 to EMA. South Yorkshire and the surrounding area is a massive untapped potential.

They have to get the link into the M18 built soon though. It's a bit of a pain in the arse to get to at the minute.

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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon May 02, 2005 9:39 am

I'm looking forward to flying out from Doncaster in a few weeks when I jet off to the Paris air show via CDG with Thomsonfly. I assume it will be in one of their 737-500s ? Other than Ryanair, who are the expected other operators ?
 
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RE: Doncaster-Sheffield Movements

Mon May 02, 2005 9:54 am

KennyK,

At the moment, TOM have 2 737-300s based there (G-THOG and G-THOH), with 2 more to follow and a 737-800, for the BY charter flights. This weekend, the BY charters are being done by a Hola 757, which has been a nice surprise. Thomas Cook are already operating in and out. I missed the flight tonight, as it was scheduled to land at 21:40, so I don't know what equipment they are using. Balkan Holidays are starting to BOJ in the next few weeks, again not sure what with, but hopefully we'll see some TU154s. BY are starting long haul operations for the winter season, presumably with a based 763. CO have been strongly hinted at for the first trans-Atlantic service next summer, but nothing confirmed as yet. Pegasus are coming from next week, and also Volga-Dneper (spelt?), with AN-124 freigters.

So lots to see over coming weeks!

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