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Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:42 am

Has MDW always been "landlocked?" I was wondering if there was a point where there was empty land in which another runway could have been built. It would have been nice if there were two runways in which planes could make a parallel landing...then Peotone would not even be an issue  Big grin I am just curious. Thanks and cheers  Big grin
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:44 am

Yup...almost always. It was designed long ago and built for another era, so it was not figured in for much expansion.
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:13 am

In the mid-50's there was a Braniff Convair that crashed on approach to MDW across the street from the airport. It was too low and hit a gas station sign, flipped over and caught fire. There were some survivors. What I remember about it was the photos in the paper. One was from an airplane a couple of thousand feet above MDW airport and showing that "...landing at Midway was like landing on a postage stamp". So, yeah, there were population and buildings and homes surrounding the airport as far back as the mid-fifties.
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:40 am

Midway (then called Chicago Municipal) was on the edge of the city when it opened in the 1920s. There were some neighborhoods to the immediate east (in the Garfield Ridge area) that were just starting to develop... the grid pattern of streets had been built, but construction of homes was sporadic.

If you look at aerials from that era, today's grid network of streets exists around the airport, but homes/businesses are few and far between. There are a few businesses on Cicero Avenue and 63rd Street, but still mostly empty lots. Then the Depression came and homebuilding came to almost a complete stop.

After World War II the area around MDW exploded... most of the houses that now hem in the airport were literally built in five years between 1945 and 1950. Remember, the streets and utilities were already hooked up, so it was easy to throw up an angular, then-futuristic 1950s Chicago bungalow. By 1950 the airport was completely surrounded by mostly new homes and businesses.
 
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:48 am

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 2):
In the mid-50's there was a Braniff Convair that crashed on approach to MDW across the street from the airport

And this one too:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19721208-1
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:04 am

If I'm not mistaken, in that 1972 crash, wasn't the wife of Watergate figure
E Howard Hunt killed on that flight (with rumors of a suitcase full of cash buzzing around)?


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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:32 am

Quoting Clrd2go (Reply 5):
If I'm not mistaken, in that 1972 crash, wasn't the wife of Watergate figure
E Howard Hunt killed on that flight (with rumors of a suitcase full of cash buzzing around)?
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Yes, an excellent article about this in the November 2004 Airways Magazine titled, "Remembering the Deaths of Kings."

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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:45 am

How is the money explained (apologies for the digression)


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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:53 am

My best bet would be if you could more the corners or lower road a 55th Cicero Avenue and 55th and Central then you could extend the 31c and 22L at Midway.
 
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:54 am

What about just demolishing entire neighborhoods and adding a parellel runway??  Big grin Although, that would be difficult because of O'Hare traffic; would it even be possible to have parellel landings at MDW (theoretically) with O'Hare in the region??
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:56 am

Any one know the temperature at the Baby Doll Polka Club?
 
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:57 am

where did that come from and how is it related to this thread??
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:10 am

Baby Doll Polka Club is on Central Ave right across form MIDWAY. Baby Doll Polka Club is a code for Temperature at MIDWAY by radio stations on Chi Town
 
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:15 am

i see.......................  Big grin
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:19 am

FWIW, Midway wasn't alway a mile square like it is now. I think it started as the SE quarter of the present square, then (in the 1930s?) expanded westward. I never have found out exactly when they removed that east-west railroad across what's now midfield-- probably after 1940?
 
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:29 am

Check out the book Chicago's Midway Airport The First Seventy-Five Years
by Christopher Lynch. Quite a few pics of MDW taken over the years.
 
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:23 pm

I remember being at MDW in 1988 and it was a ZOO!
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:32 pm

Wouldn't it be great if they had zoo's at airports?

Just seeing how far this topic can get off course!
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:33 pm

This sounds like it could head into an "Airplane!" type thread! "A zoo?, what is it?" "It is a big area with lots of animals but that is not important now."  Smile
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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:35 pm

Jeremy, you were born too late. Ya shudda been walking through the MDW terminal in 57 or 58. Now theres a zoo!. This was the pre-jet era and ORD was open but for international flights and very few domestic flights....very few.

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RE: Has MDW Always Been Surrounded By Neighborhoods?

Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:36 pm

7E72004:

ROTFLMFAO!

Good one.
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