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What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:56 am

I was Just wondering what happens to flight no.s of crashed flights. Do the airlines never use them again out of respect to the people on board or could we ( not anymore but before they were sold) find a swissair 111 ( which crashed off the Nova Scotia coast)?

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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:03 am

Most (if not all) airlines do not use those numbers again until the incident is all but forgotten (a few decades later!). I dont think they do it to respect the victims but rather for PR reasons (who would want to sit on SR111 that crashed yesterday ...)

Swissair did change the flight number SR110/111 immediately (cant recall to what though), as did Singapore Airlines (SQ5/6 to SQ29/30)
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:35 am

Yes, they are almost always retired shortly thereafter, especially in cases where the media seizes on the number of the ill-fated flight: PA103, UA232, TW800, UA93, etc. I can't think of a case where such a well-known number has been reintroduced, even years after the crash.
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:57 am

I think the practice started back in the late 60s or early 70s. AA1 is still used today despite that same flight # plunging into Jamaica Bay back in the early 60s.
 
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:24 am

TWA 800 became TWA 801 I believe.
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:30 am

Quoting 777STL (Reply 4):
TWA 800 became TWA 801 I believe.

Flight 801 was the return flight CDG-JFK. After the crash, both were changed--I believe they became 924 and 925.
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:36 am

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 5):
Flight 801 was the return flight CDG-JFK. After the crash, both were changed--I believe they became 924 and 925.

Ahh really, okay.
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:53 am

SAA cancelled the use of SA295 after the crash of the Helderberg in the Indian Ocean in November 1987.
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:01 am

I don't know if this is factual as airlines use it nowadays, but after DL191 all the airlines in operation changed their flight numbers of 191. Of course it may not hold true as most airlines use it now except DL and AA of course.
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:40 pm

When a crash with fatallities occurrs, that said airline retires that number (so to speak) permanently. It is only removed from use by the carrier of the incident. All other carriers would still use these numbers.
 
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:09 pm

Yes, AV052/053 has been AV020/021 since the crash of the 707.
 
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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:34 pm

Air Canada still operates flight AC621, albeit not on the same route.

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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:04 pm

SK 751 is still used to WAW, but now from CPH instead of ARN. Although there were no casualties in the Gottröra incident.

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RE: What Happens To Flight Numbers Of Crashed Flights?

Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:07 pm

Quoting Danialanwar (Reply 1):

Swissair did change the flight number SR110/111 immediately (cant recall to what though), as did Singapore Airlines (SQ5/6 to SQ29/30)

The flights numbers were changed to 114 and 115. The worst about these numbers is the fact that their sum, 229 is exactly the amount of victims of the SR 111 crash !
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