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Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:17 pm

The title says it all. Finally United has painted a non-Ted A320 in the new colors. What do you think?


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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:19 pm

looks good, true similar to the TED colours.... (despite the lines and colours)
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:20 pm

She looks great! Much better than her brother Ted
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:27 pm

My personal opinion, any aircraft in the new United c/s is going to look Great!!! Big grin
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:40 pm

I really liked the old livery better, although with the passage of time the new one is beginning to grow on me. Do you know if this plane is based out of IAD exclusively or if it is rotated throughout the hubs? I ask because it would be nice to see this bird in MEX.
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:02 am

I thought no A320's were supposed to get this livery since they were all going to be converted to TED
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:24 am

Surprisingly, at least from this angle, I like Ted a lot better on the 320. Something about the lines on this one just doesn't work. I am glad to see new paint getting onto UA's aircraft. Now lets get some more of those widebodies cleaned up!
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:03 am

I think the old livery is much better than the new one. The new livery on the United airbuses makes the planes look like the picture was just generated by a graphic designer, the old livery is very classy and creates an image of an airline that has a long and proud history.
I haven't seen any pictures of the 747 with the new livery but I can imagine it, and it would look ugly. And what is the logic behind painting all the places in a new livery when the airline is in such a bad financial situation?
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:15 am

Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 3):
My personal opinion, any aircraft in the new United c/s is going to look Great!!!

Definetly agree. The new livery looks fresh and new. The old livery was dark and gloomy. Love the new livery.

Quoting FlightLover (Reply 7):
And what is the logic behind painting all the places in a new livery when the airline is in such a bad financial situation?

That was my thought at first. But giving the airline a new livery gives them an updated look. I think they were trying to get away from the old livery and well the unfortunate 9/11 events. I mean, we will always remember that day and that UA planes were involved but mentally, the new livery is sort of representing them moving on. Very smart if you ask me.
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:18 am

How many liveries is this lame airline flying now, three (Including Ted)?

Oh, boy! This is an ingenious idea to finally pull them out of bankruptcy! I wonder why no one thought of it before!

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:20 am

Wow!! It looks amazing! That's two more points for United..

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 1):
looks good, true similar to the TED colours.... (despite the lines and colours)

To my understanding, the TED livery was pretty much a spinoff of the new UA livery, just before they had started painting the fleet and they already had the designs, etc. If you compare the two aircraft there's not that much of a difference (exterior):

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Just different logos, line colors, etc.
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:18 am

Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 3):
My personal opinion, any aircraft in the new United c/s is going to look Great!!!

I couldn't agree with you more  bigthumbsup  although I did have doubts about the A320, it looks spectacular!
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:05 am

Looks pretty kick-ass, in my opinion. I don't like the livery much on the 747, but it does the A320 and the 777 great justice. Well done, UA.
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:49 am

Quoting FlightLover (Reply 7):
And what is the logic behind painting all the places in a new livery when the airline is in such a bad financial situation?

Ok for the very last time someone's gonna have to explain this:

Airplanes need to be repainted every so often, the paint wears off over time and unpainted areas are very susceptable to quicker corrosion. Therefore, at every D check, the plane is showered in a soulution that completely eats all the paint off the airplane. The plane is then repainted. The fact is that United is saving bucketloads of money at every D-check because this livery is far cheaper to paint onto the plane than the old livery was.

Any questions?


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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:02 am

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 10):
Just different logos, line colors, etc.

If different logos and line colors don't constitute a different livery then it seems to me the Continental scheme is darn close to the Vietnam Airlines scheme!

Apart from the tail, UA and Ted are vastly different. The new colors look alright on the A320, but they suit the 737, 777, and CRJs much better I think.
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:03 am

Quoting FlightLover (Reply 7):
I haven't seen any pictures of the 747 with the new livery but I can imagine it, and it would look ugly.

You don't look hard enough...

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:00 am

No matter what you think about the old livery, United was very smart about both the timing and strategy behind the new one.

The new scheme was considered in light of a redesigned identity for mainline (introduced in 97) and a sub-branded identity for Ted. For example, the angled T in "Ted" comes from that of the United logotype, and the blue used on the belly of the mainline scheme is the same blue used on the Ted's engine cowlings. The tail design unifies all fleet types, but allows for brand differentiation through varied coloration. At the time United painted the first aircraft in its new livery (B777) some of the fleet hadn't been painted in 6 or 7 years. This was, and still is, quite noticable where those old gray liveries and their bright stripes have faded to about 30% their original intensity. It was cost effective as it was either a matter of spending money to make United look like the same old brand, or spending less money to help give United a new image.

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 8):
The new livery on the United airbuses makes the planes look like the picture was just generated by a graphic designer

That's sort of the point, really. United deserves a lot of credit for working with a team of solid and renowned designers. The same team that designed the livery designed the EasyCheck-in product, the p.s. product, and Ted.

I love seeing the new liver debut on differet aircraft, and admit that it might look better on some than on others, but overall I love it. I guess the only "new" aircraft left to get the new scheme are a handful of Express aircraft. We've done at least one of all the Boeings, and now the A320. The 319 will essentially be identical to this one, just shorter.
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:07 am

Quoting Trayfam (Reply 16):
The 319 will essentially be identical to this one, just shorter.

Are you sure it won't be white on bottom and blue on top? Big grin
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:14 am

I gotta admit ive never really cared for United at all but two thumbs up on that livery it is simply stunning!
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:26 am

I've been a skeptic of the new c/s, but the A320 looks nice. I think it looks better on the smaller planes (737/A320/RJ) than the bigger ones (747/777). Just my opinion of course, but I'm not a fan of the straight lines on the fuselage, kinda boring. I do love the tail logo, though.
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:28 am

I don't like it, the lines don't suit its nose,

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:28 am

Looks sharp... fits the A320 series well. Good luck to all the UA family in their efforts...  Smile
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:10 am

Finally!! I've been waiting for this to happen since the begining of spring as I kept hearing rumors of United paiting their 'Bus a/c in new colors starting in the spring. Also because whenever I travel on United I seem to always be on the 319 or 320. I've only flown UA n/c once on a 733 to DEN. Now I have a much greater chance of flying n/c when I travel cross country!!  Smile

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:16 am

Saw this out at DEN once

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:43 am

The new livery looks terrible on the 744 it only loos goo when lines begin under the windows. The A320 doesn't look that great either, and despite the fact I like the battleship grey more, man does n/c look good on a 733!
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:43 am

Whoever painted that needs to work on their photoshop skills...it's too easy to tell it's fake (look at the windows).

The 320 looks great! Big grin
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:47 am

meh I was just trying to kill an afternoon...nothin fancy  Wink
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:08 am

I sure do like the UA new livery much better than the "grey ghost". I just hope we see them flying around for many years to come...

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:39 am

How about putting "new livery" money back in employee pockets..



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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:46 am

She looks simply stunning!!! Big grin
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:08 am

Quoting FSPilot747 (Reply 28):
How about putting "new livery" money back in employee pockets..

For your convienience:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 13):
Ok for the very last time someone's gonna have to explain this:

Airplanes need to be repainted every so often, the paint wears off over time and unpainted areas are very susceptable to quicker corrosion. Therefore, at every D check, the plane is showered in a soulution that completely eats all the paint off the airplane. The plane is then repainted. The fact is that United is saving bucketloads of money at every D-check because this livery is far cheaper to paint onto the plane than the old livery was.

Any questions?
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:52 am

I do like it.
So far, in my opinion:
RJ's: look nice (A-)
A320: Ted (B): I don't think the Ted typeface is very good looking, but the amber fading logo on the tail is pretty cool. Mainline: (A), nice and fresh. Bright fits the 320 much better.
737's: look amazing (A)
744: Don't like it. It makes the 744 look SMALLER and more boring (C-). Although it doesn't help, I think the "cheatline" from blue to white is too low, and the UNITED typface doesn't look as sharp and catching.
757: Very nice (B+)
763: Works pretty well, makes them look fresh, but still smaller (B)
777: I go back and forth. I love how it looks, but yet, like the 744, it makes it seem smaller. The blue-white proportion does work well on the 777, though (B/B-)

OVERALL GRADE for new C/S: (B). As others have mentioned, this works well with the smaller aircrafts, I think it takes away from the majestic size of the bigger planes, particularly the 744. While United did need to change it's image for product and media purposes, to have compatable advertising with all their print, TV, and airport stuff, I think it's now harder to spot UA aircrafts. This new "Euro" whatever style is making UA, BA, LH, NH, JL, DL, F9, HP, AF, JBLUE, SouthAfrican, Cathay, and all the others mix together if seen from afar at a busy airport. When you see the blue/grey (which is also, in my opinion), is more sophsiticated, and worldy (United's 90s image), you could easily say, "yeah, thats a United plane". Only US looks similar from far away. Change is good, and UA did a lot of right things here, (such as incorporating the new logo, the "I am blue" colors (and Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue), and the beautiful fading tail; yet, the bigger A/C lack their majesty. I wish UA had done special color schemes for the 777 (since they helped develop it and launched it AND have one of the largest fleets in the world), the 747 (one of the only US carriers to offer it), and the 763 (they launched the 200, and for a while, the 300 was the flagship A/C).
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:08 pm

The A320 looks sharp.

If you haven't seen the new livery in person you really shouldn't complain about how ugly it is. It's a little funny to say it makes the 744 look small when you're looking at a 1024x768 image of one. I have seen the 744 up close in SFO and from a distance in LAX and both times it looked stunning. I saw another 772 today in SEA and I could not keep my eyes off of it either. I don't know if it's just because it's new, but this livery seems to stand out among all others.

That being said I hope that UA does not fall victim to AF syndrome. UA had some pretty dingy planes flying around the last time their livery featured a white fuselage and I would hate to see that happen again.

It's also hard to believe anyone can still think United came up with this idea overnight and is somehow wasting money on it during bankruptcy. This has been beaten to death and if you still think it's a frivolous expense please do a search. Maintaining your fleet is not a cost that can be eliminated, and the benefits, both from a marketing and a maintenance point of view, have been well discussed here. Don't forget CO did the same thing while they were in bankruptcy, and with great success. UA already has experience in this as well because their last transition to new colors was done the exact same way, gradually, therefore avoiding any additional cost.

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:57 pm

I wonder what the 727 would have looked like in the livery....Hmmmm
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:36 pm

I guess I am of the opposite opinion to some members on this forum. I loved the old livery! It made the airline seem more older, and mature. The new livery looks like it is a low-cost fun-vacationing type carrier (like a Carnival Cruise lines....except in the sky). Doesn't really reflect the brand identity they were after.

That said, I think that the 744 and 772 look kind of funky, and fun. The smaller planes just do not look right!

Of course, this is just my opinion.

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:01 pm

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 34):
It made the airline seem more older, and mature. The new livery looks like it is a low-cost fun-vacationing type carrier (like a Carnival Cruise lines....except in the sky).

Older and mature ?? I don´t know what u understand for older and mature, IMO it was a kind of a military livery that what out of date too soon. I think it did nor represent at all the company. For me the best livery UA has had has been the one of the eighties...

Anyway, the new livery looks better on wide bodies than on smaller planes...
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:03 pm

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 33):
I wonder what the 727 would have looked like in the livery....Hmmmm

Probably really good. The "U" would have fit the 727s tail perfectly. But alas, no more. How about this scheme....

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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:03 am

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 33):
I wonder what the 727 would have looked like in the livery....Hmmmm

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Looks pretty good to me!  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:06 am

I must admit that when I first saw the new colors on the 777, I wasn't sure how it would look on the entire United fleet. But, after seeing many new colors 777s, 747s, 737s, and CRJs up close, I must say that it does look quite sharp and clean. I like it!
 
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:33 pm

I kinda prefer the gray plane too. It had a unique and somewhat "mature" look.

But, isn't the primary reason why UA went with a new color scheme to save money when the planes coming in for heavy maintenance that also require new paint?
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RE: Here It Is, The First UA A320 In N/C

Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:52 am

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 39):
But, isn't the primary reason why UA went with a new color scheme to save money when the planes coming in for heavy maintenance that also require new paint?

Yes, see reply #13. Big grin
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