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USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:23 am

US Airways will add Saturday service between Fort Lauderdale and Montego Bayon 9 July:

US 1059 FLL 1130-1220 MBJ 319 Sa
US 318 MBJ 1430-1730 FLL 319 Sa

For now, this service runs through 20 August 2005. Wouldn't be surprised if it goes year-round.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:25 am

FLL-KIN will probably be upgrading from a 319 to a 321 on the July schedule change also.

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:37 am

Someone add Mexico City already haha! I know it's not a leisure destination. But it still has to have some demand from FLL for a A319 sized aircraft!
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:06 am

Sean, NK has already announced that it will serve MEX from FLL with A321's. I am not sure however if service has already begun.

Any plans to visit Mexico City in the near future?
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:38 am

I heard FLL-POS will come soon too, but AA has MIA-POS flights so don't know if they want to piss off AA.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:56 am

Looks like a B737-400, not an A319, flying BWI-FLL-MBJ.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:07 am

Quoting Azul320 (Reply 4):
I heard FLL-POS will come soon too, but AA has MIA-POS flights so don't know if they want to piss off AA.

I don't think they care much about what AA thinks. As if AA doesn't fly MIA-GUA, MIA-SJO, MIA-SAL, MIA-KIN, etc.

FLL-POS could be a great performer. There is a lot of high-yielding business traffic. Port of Spain is probably the biggest business market from the Caribbean out of Miami, up there with Nassau and Grand Cayman. It is also the type of market that won't work well out of CLT or PHL, like Kingston, which has, more than any other of the FLL routes, far exceeded anybody's expectations.

Quoting A330323X (Reply 5):
Looks like a B737-400, not an A319, flying BWI-FLL-MBJ.

Thanks for the correction.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:23 am

POS I agree would do well ex FLL. SUre there other carriers doing the service out of MIA, but there is a lot of people flying that route. If US times their service to get into POS in time to pick up the Caribbean Star connections to the nearby islands like GND and SVD, it would be even better.

FLL/POS is a leisure route persay, but as mentioned it is quite a business passenger oriented route. It would do as well as KIN as flights to both cities caters for similar types of passengers.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:27 am

Quoting Captaink (Reply 7):
FLL/POS is a leisure route persay, but as mentioned it is quite a business passenger oriented route. It would do as well as KIN as flights to both cities caters for similar types of passengers.

Port of Spain is not a vacation destination. It is a VFR and business route, just like Kingston.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:52 am

Nothing direct in the system yet still showing having to change in CLT.

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:17 pm

Hey,

Does anyone know when this FLL-POS service is suppose to begin if this year? Also what type of aircraft do you think they would use on this route? They would have some competition on the FLL-POS route from Travelspan with their 757.

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:20 pm

FLL-KIN flights are exceeding expectations for US. I wouldn't be surprised to see FLL- MBJ go to a daily next winter.
 
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:51 pm

What will this do to an already wounded JM?
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:05 pm

THe Spirit service was mentioned/Announced but I think has been delayed.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:11 pm

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 1):
FLL-KIN will probably be upgrading from a 319 to a 321 on the July schedule change also.

Dear God I hope not, TSA can barely handle the bags now when our Intl flights come in and the 319 dosn't hold much. Plus the dreadful idea of pulling 7000lbs of "Cheese" bags out of the holds.
 
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:11 am

Quoting Sinlock (Reply 14):
Dear God I hope not, TSA can barely handle the bags now when our Intl flights come in and the 319 dosn't hold much. Plus the dreadful idea of pulling 7000lbs of "Cheese" bags out of the holds.

Haha, that's usually the biggest problem we are on time and TSA goes and screws everything up making half the bags miss.

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:28 am

Sinlock, you think the bags off the 321 from KIN sound scary, wait to see you the SDQ bags this summer, trust me !

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:51 pm

Caribbean flights have a terrible reputation for having some crazy heavy bags in the holds...

I was trying to be helpful couple weeks ago, by deciding offload the J/W Bin from a VS flight. Ok... J/W/Y still caribbean people, still heavy bags.. OH MY GOD, my back was hurting for a few days..

What is in these bags? To the US, everything caribbean people can't find up there, esp New Zealand Chedder, spices, fish, local confectionary, cakes, the list goes on endlessly.... From the US? Everything the US has that is harder to come by in the islands.. Result? Almost every bag will be at it its 70lb limit or slightly more..

JM makes a killing on excess bags between South Florida and Jamaica.. They make a killing on excess bags between New York and every island they serve.

I didn't realize the spanish caribbean were the same or worse  Smile

In GND and BGI for sure, US has a hard time keeping up with the baggage on peak seasons, esp carnival times... I wonder how they doing with baggage on the KIN route  Smile
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:56 pm

I also noticed CLT-LIR is increasing to 4x weekly. US has done very well in LIR and Costa Rica in general, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them add another route or two soon.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:16 am

US seems to be making the necessary adjustments in terms of cities served to be competitive at FLL. Most traffic for the first few months of US focus city operations has been O&D, allowing US Airways to continue to feed leisure traffic to the Caribbean through Charlotte and Philly.
 
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:28 am

Two other things I noticed:

US is increasing CLT-BGI to 4x weekly from 1x weekly.

US is adding a Tuesday CLT-STX, increasing that route to 2x weekly.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue May 03, 2005 2:14 pm

As mentioned, FLL-KIN is indeed upgrading to an A321 in July.

FLL-SDQ is upgrading to a B757. FLL-GUA is upgrading to an A320.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue May 03, 2005 3:50 pm

Quoting A330323X (Reply 21):
As mentioned, FLL-KIN is indeed upgrading to an A321 in July.

FLL-SDQ is upgrading to a B757. FLL-GUA is upgrading to an A320.

I heard this the other day from a few people. I also have heard rumors of FLL-LAX

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Tue May 03, 2005 4:12 pm

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 22):
I heard this the other day from a few people. I also have heard rumors of FLL-LAX

Look for FLL-SFO before FLL-LAX, from what I hear. Daily A319, probably by November.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 2:52 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
Look for FLL-SFO before FLL-LAX, from what I hear. Daily A319, probably by November.

Yup, was not really sure of the order but I know both are part of the phase II of the FLL focus city. Have you heard anything about FLL-FRA?

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 3:19 am

Phase II??? Phase I got cut up before it even got established. I know for a fact that if it were not for the lack of gate space, PVD-FLL was going to be next. Now, I doubt we'll see much of anything from US at FLL especially a route that will tie up an aircraft for a whole day like FLL-SFO would. I suppose it's not totally out of the question, but US has more to worry about than a FLL-SFO/LAX!
 
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 3:52 am

Gate space isn't limited at all right now for Usair as long as the flights are domestic and not international. E1 seems to be free a lot with it being used for the express service which is on ly a few a day. I believe they are up to 7 gates in the E concourse...sometimes 8 and they can use 1 or 2 F gates if i'm not mistaken. Be nice to see SFO and SEA..No airlines have tried either of those destinations yet.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 3:59 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 25):
Phase II??? Phase I got cut up before it even got established. I know for a fact that if it were not for the lack of gate space, PVD-FLL was going to be next. Now, I doubt we'll see much of anything from US at FLL especially a route that will tie up an aircraft for a whole day like FLL-SFO would. I suppose it's not totally out of the question, but US has more to worry about than a FLL-SFO/LAX!

Phase II is very much underway.

A daily FLL-SFO service is planned to start this fall with an A319. Evening departure from FLL, redeye to FLL.

US Airways has, overall, been successful at Fort Lauderdale. Instead, however, of keeping the poorer performing routes, they are simply doing rid of them. Key West, Kingston, Guatemala City, San Jose, and Santo Domingo have performed outstandingly, far exceeding even modest expectations. The loads and yields on Kingston are phoenomenal.
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 7:42 am

A330323X mentioned FLL-GUA is upgrading to a 320 in July, it will actually be a 320 six days a week and a 321 on Saturdays.

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 9:25 am

The 757 on SDQ is very interesting because of all the cargo / huge bags that go down there.

A 757 on that short distance could carry a sh*tload of bags / cargo, could it not?
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 10:11 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 25):
Phase II??? Phase I got cut up before it even got established. I know for a fact that if it were not for the lack of gate space, PVD-FLL was going to be next. Now, I doubt we'll see much of anything from US at FLL especially a route that will tie up an aircraft for a whole day like FLL-SFO would. I suppose it's not totally out of the question, but US has more to worry about than a FLL-SFO/LAX!

That's right phase II, and no phase I was not cut up before it got started they are dropping two of the international flights due to loads not being great all the time so instead PTY will go to seasonal service. BTW the FLL-PVD is run on Saturdays.

FLL-SFO is a good choice if you ask me, no direct compatition since nobody has non stop service to SFO. Plus you don't think people on the west coast would like to take a trip to KIN or SJO?

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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 1:38 pm

PTY has been a late bloomer and has been performing surprisingly very well recently, BUT it's practically all LAST MINUTE bookings. ADVANCE bookings have NOT been good however and that's primarily why this route will be put on hiatus. I anticipate that PTY will be reinstated very soon.

BTW, on FLL-PVD, this flight will more than likely be back next winter and hopefully with more than just a Saturday frequency.
 
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Wed May 04, 2005 11:36 pm

The FLL-PVD Sat. service is being cut this month. FLL-SFO also has good Star Alliance ties now that I think about it too...You must admit, Phase I has already witnessed EWR/BWI/BDL/PVD service all reduced in some way in addition to dropping 2 southbound routes as well. That to me would qualify as being "cut up" seeing the limited number of Phase I destinations.
 
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RE: USAirways To Add FLL-MBJ

Thu May 05, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 32):
You must admit, Phase I has already witnessed EWR/BWI/BDL/PVD service all reduced in some way in addition to dropping 2 southbound routes as well. That to me would qualify as being "cut up" seeing the limited number of Phase I destinations.

If rumours are true, EWR will be back in the winter, as will PTY, and BDL and BWI will go daily again for peak season.
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