|Quoting AF022 (Reply 6):|
for me, the landside location of the lounges is a big negative for T4.
If you are in the lounge in the first place, presumably the airline would allow you the fast lane through security, no? I could still see the hassle though.
|Quoting LUV4JFK (Reply 7):|
Another possible reason is that JFK claims that Terminal 4 is A380 ready and JFK is definitely one of the airports that will see a VS 380 on a daily rotation. I'm not sure about Terminal 1's preparations for the 380, if any are even needed, because Air France is there as well as Lufthansa, who both have the 380 on order. Air France will definitely use it to JFK. I'm still unsure if Lufthansa would use it to JFK. Only time will tell.
Terminal 4 has four gates that are/will be A380 ready. As far as I know, Terminal 1 has not yet started on their improvements but plan to be ready by the time the 380 starts taking to the skies.
Here is some info from a recent Newsday article:
Kennedy Airport will need $120-million worth of renovations -- including widening the runways, moving a taxiway away from the terminal and strengthening bridges -- in order to safely accommodate the Airbus 380, a superjumbo double-decker that has a wingspan nearly the length of a football field.
Some of the new construction will be needed just to make sure that the wingtips of the A380 don't hit other planes or trucks. That means a main taxiway will have to be completely relocated 16 feet farther away from the terminal.
The FAA also expects to restrict the taxiing speed of the A380 to 15 mph, while other large jets can taxi at 20 to 25 mph. The reduced speed will help keep the A380 from drifting off the centerline. The FAA's Dermody said he also expects the A380 to have a designated route from runway to gate, and because its tail is 15 feet higher than the tail of a 747, the A380 won't be able to taxi next to a runway where planes are taking off or landing.
The airport's runways will be widened from 150 feet to 200 feet. The four bridges that carry aircraft over the JFK
Expressway and the Van Wyck will be reinforced -- even though they were shored up several years ago to handle the Boeing 777 and another large Airbus plane, the A340. And the pavement in front of selected gates at Terminal One and Terminal Four will have to be strengthened to handle the 1.2-million-pound A380.
|Quoting Planemannyc (Reply 8):|
How can you be sure that AF will use A380s on the JFK run? Have they announced their A380 routes? They seem to have gone to B772s instead of B744s on some flights (I know the difference is not that much, but still is a reduction on capacity).
That's because AF
has made the 777 their main high-yield aircraft (meaning it has the most premium seats) while the 744 has had the first class sections removed and is now used mostly on low-yielding tourists routes. When AF
receives their 380s, they will most likely be flown on routes similiar to CDG-JFK
where there are lots of high-yielding pax.
Yes. Only for First class pax though. They also use the Swiss and Varig lounges.
Overall, the following airlines that fly into JFK
have ordered the 380:
Out of those, all except Lufthansa and Emirates are likely to be sending their 380s to JFK
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