eatmybologna
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Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:44 pm

I've been reading all of your posts on Airliners.net now for about a month and just decided to sign on as a member. What I see here is a very aggressive business war going on between the two major aerospace companies. This competition is fantastic for obvious reasons. But what I'm wondering is, have A & B ever worked together on a project or plan to collaborate with each other in the future? I thought I remember watching the Wings channel a year or two ago that touched on the two possibly working together and pooling their resources to develop a large wing shaped civil airplane.

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brons2
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:48 pm

Boeing and Airbus collaborated on some VLA designs in the mid-90s, but nothing became of it. Of course, Airbus went on to launch a clean-sheet VLA, the A380.
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:48 pm

Yes, around 1990-1995, Airbus and Boeing considered collaborating on a very large airplane seating about 700-800. For a variety of reasons, it fell through: there was likely cultural clash, and Airbus felt that Boeing was aiming for a seating capacity too high just so they could continue to market the 747.

They went their own ways, and Airbus launched the A3XX/A388 on their own.
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777DadandJr
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:56 pm

I was told by a Boeing insider that the wing box on the 777 was made by EADS, which I believe is a majority owner of Airbus.
Is this true?
Would that be considered a collaboration?

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DfwRevolution
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:00 pm

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 3):
I was told by a Boeing insider that the wing box on the 777 was made by EADS, which I believe is a majority owner of Airbus.

Nooo.... the 777 wingbox is made in Japan

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/148285_boeingjapan14.html
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monteycarlos
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:06 pm

I "heard" (and by heard I mean it may not be correct) that Airbus approached Boeing with the idea of super-capacity jetliner and after short collaboration they decided to go their seperate ways, with Airbus eventually coming out with the A380.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 2):
For a variety of reasons, it fell through: there was likely cultural clash, and Airbus felt that Boeing was aiming for a seating capacity too high just so they could continue to market the 747.

Is this where the two different philosophies came from? (i.e. point to point v. high capacity)

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ConcordeBoy
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:46 pm

Be shweet to see the two of them work together, perhaps in Tandem with the Japanese, on a new SST.
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RE: Have A & B Ever Considered Working Together?

Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:24 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 6):
Be shweet to see the two of them work together, perhaps in Tandem with the Japanese, on a new SST.

This is likely the only way it could get done. I would add the Chinese as potential partner risk sharing partner as well.
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