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A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:48 am

Check this out: Kinda cute, but not that cute.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/analysis/toons/2005/04/29/mikula/

Cast your vote ...  Smile
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:51 am

Notice just above the cockpit is a familiar motif from the "Starship Enterprise"
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 1:01 am

Remember the firsts A380 will be operated with only a few more seats than current 747s operated by Charter airlines or Japanese carriers.

So it is not that big !
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 1:41 am

The A380 can easily transport the entire U.S. Congress (435 Representatives + 100 Senators = 535 Members of Congress) and U. S. Sumpreme Court (9 Justices). The Executive Branch will have to follow in their 742.
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 2:23 am

We only miss a pool on top, so you could swim 38.000ft in the air.

Atleast the original A380 has a better look  Wink
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 3):
The A380 can easily transport the entire U.S. Congress (435 Representatives + 100 Senators = 535 Members of Congress) and U. S. Sumpreme Court (9 Justices).

Take them, PLEASE!!!!!!
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 3:07 am

Quoting Aither (Reply 2):
Remember the firsts A380 will be operated with only a few more seats than current 747s operated by Charter airlines or Japanese carriers.

So it is not that big

so if it's only a few more seats and it's trip costs are 15% higher than even today's 747-400 than you are recognizing it is not efficient.

So....why should anyone buy it??
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 3:44 am

Quoting TrevD (Reply 6):
so if it's only a few more seats and it's trip costs are 15% higher than even today's 747-400

Wasn't it the other way around?
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 6:59 am

Quoting TrevD (Reply 6):
Quoting Aither (Reply 2):
Remember the firsts A380 will be operated with only a few more seats than current 747s operated by Charter airlines or Japanese carriers.

So it is not that big

so if it's only a few more seats and it's trip costs are 15% higher than even today's 747-400 than you are recognizing it is not efficient.

So....why should anyone buy it??

You're comparing apples and oranges. The charter 744s are fully packed, while the SQ (for example) 388s are under even the manufacturer suggested density.

If you went to the same density as the 744 charter carriers like Corsair you would hit somewhere in the high 600s on the 388. And the seat/mile cost would be way lower than on the 744.
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 7:19 am

I think the A380 would be great for somethig analogous to United's premium service, but on a much more opulent scale on flights across the Pond or flight to/from the Pacific. Airlines could configure the aircraft with lounges (w/ a piano), private bedrooms / suites, and small office centers with computers, fax, phones etc. (maybe even mini-conference rooms where businessmen can hold teleconferences or video conferences).

I don't know what plans Virgin or the other costumers have, but I believe an up-scale luxury liner could bring back some of the prestige and luxury that aviation once had: Maybe Virgin can replace the Concorde in a different, more extravagant, way  Smile They could this service, say JFK - LHR, "Extra Virgin"
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 8:08 am

Quoting Aither (Reply 2):
Remember the firsts A380 will be operated with only a few more seats than current 747s operated by Charter airlines or Japanese carriers.

During a BBC review of the maiden flight, I was very surprised to see Emirates confirm that their A388 will only have 480 seats. This is well below what I was expecting and also shatters the theory that airlines will pack the A388 to its capacity of 555. I guess this means the A380-700 will never happen, because no airline will be interested.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 8:17 am

Quoting Lazybones (Reply 10):

During a BBC review of the maiden flight, I was very surprised to see Emirates confirm that their A388 will only have 480 seats. This is well below what I was expecting and also shatters the theory that airlines will pack the A388 to its capacity of 555.

Well, not many 744 operators pack their planes with the nominal 424 pax either...
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 9:07 am

I love it rotfl  Very cool.
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 11:08 am

They went for it hook line and dihedral.Boeing never intended to build anything larger than th 747. A Good day for Boeing. May the Boeing group prevail.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 11:18 am

Take them, PLEASE!!!!!!

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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:00 pm

Anyone else notice the USS Enterprise (as in Star Trek) resemblance in the cartoon??
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:06 pm

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 15):
Anyone else notice the USS Enterprise (as in Star Trek) resemblance in the cartoon??

See the second reply.  Wink
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:34 pm

YEsterday on the Daily Show, Global edition....

The Host took a dig at Airbus....

He said, BOston and Chicago are such beautiful airports.... so Airbus, please dont get the 380 there.....
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:50 pm

I smell a Reality Show featuring the A380

There could be a film crew on select Virgin A380 flights. The program could portray the realities of long flights (from a passengers perspective) and how FAs deal with 400+ passengers. It could also highlight the maneuvering of such a huge jumbo as seen from the cockpit. The show would be called "Flying High in My Big Big Bus"

hmmm, sounds like a good idea
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 12:58 pm

pretty funny....i wonder if the enterprise held less people??...  Silly
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 1:29 pm

"TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO BOEING HAS GONE BEFORE"  Wink
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 1:46 pm

Quoting Freedom4all (Reply 19):
pretty funny....i wonder if the enterprise held less people??...

Well, I am/was a ST Fan so.....the answer is yes. The original series Enterprise had a crew of around 430.
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 1:50 pm

Quoting Morvious (Reply 4):
We only miss a pool on top, so you could swim 38.000ft in the air

If I were the richest man in the world, my A380 would have an olympic pool with stereo speakers and a swim-up bar on the upper deck. Maybe a techno dance club on the bottom floor.
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 3:26 pm

The CNN cartoons by this guy have got to be the dumbest things ever published.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 3:35 pm

Star trek fans never fail to amaze me, thanks for clearing up that technical fact Garnetpalmetto! At least the Enterprise was faster, I don't think the flying whale can get up to warp speed..LOL  airplane 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Mon May 02, 2005 3:37 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Take them, PLEASE!!!!!!

 rotfl  That's too funny - if only it were true  Smile
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 1:04 am

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 9):
Airlines could configure the aircraft with lounges (w/ a piano), private bedrooms / suites, and small office centers with computers, fax, phones etc. (maybe even mini-conference rooms where businessmen can hold teleconferences or video conferences).

They have that today. It’s called a BBJ, and it leaves when you want to.

People who used to fly 1st class now go NetJets. People who sit in 1st class seats are very rarely paying for them.

I can see loads of economy seats in the A380, and quite a few Business Class seats, but with the possible exception of a stand up bar on the Virgin A380s, I just don’t see any of the above happening.
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 2:24 am

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 9):
I think the A380 would be great for somethig analogous to United's premium service, but on a much more opulent scale on flights across the Pond or flight to/from the Pacific. Airlines could configure the aircraft with lounges (w/ a piano), private bedrooms / suites, and small office centers with computers, fax, phones etc. (maybe even mini-conference rooms where businessmen can hold teleconferences or video conferences).

The only way any airline is going to put this kind of luxury on board is if and when customers are willing to PAY for it!!! The vast majority of customers want low fares and it is not possible to provide such service with such low fare structures in place.

The A380 is not a revolution, The C-5 and the B747 were as they at least more than doubled the size of the aircraft hey repaced. And Russia has been flying the AN 224 for years.

Airbus is a fine plane maker but this is no pioeering effort.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 2:51 am

Quoting C680 (Reply 26):
People who used to fly 1st class now go NetJets. People who sit in 1st class seats are very rarely paying for them.

Which is why Warren Buffett bought NetJets.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 4:11 am

Quoting Patrickj (Reply 27):
And Russia has been flying the AN 224 for years.

It's still the An-225
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 4:13 am

The cartoon has a Continental Airlines tail logo on it (in drawing)??? Look at the tail ...

[Edited 2005-05-02 21:16:44]
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 4:28 am

Quoting September11 (Reply 30):
The cartoon has a Continental Airlines tail logo on it (in drawing)??? Look at the tail ...

Compare:

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/analysis/toons/2005/04/29/mikula/



 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 5:43 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 29):
It's still the An-225

Your right (typo) sorry.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 6:32 am

Quoting Freedom4all (Reply 24):
Star trek fans never fail to amaze me, thanks for clearing up that technical fact Garnetpalmetto! At least the Enterprise was faster, I don't think the flying whale can get up to warp speed..LOL

There's a goldmine of material here for a feature film:

A transporter malfunction causes panic among the passengers, who are faced with the prospect of contending with the other 600-some-odd people on-board for the use of a single jetway at the destination. Meanwhile, a mutiny is in the works, as the first-class passengers demand the captain perform a upper-deck-separation maneuver. Complicating matters are glitch in the holodeck programming, which causes a real-life Frank Lorenzo to materialize in the cabin and attempt to toss "extraneous" crew members overboard. Finally, a dead-heading 777 captain barricades himself in the bowling alley (where, conveniently for the purposes of plot complication, the auxiliary flight deck is located) and shuts down the number 1 and 4 engines, in a show of support for the ETOPS movement which is struggling to gain respect in the Federation.
 
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RE: A380 Political Cartoon

Tue May 03, 2005 8:42 am

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 21):
the answer is yes. The original series Enterprise had a crew of around 430.

NCC-1701-D had a standard crew complement of just above 1000, if I am not mistaken. Granted, it is not a galaxy class saucer section in the picture, but even so, the A380 is beat.

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