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Mon May 02, 2005 6:04 am

I was just wondering if there is any airlines that has never crashed or got accident before?

I know SQ only had 1 accident
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:07 am

According to the film 'Rainman' Qantas has never been involved in any loss of life accident, although I know since the film they had a plane leave the runway upon landing (though no loss of life or injuries I believe).

BF

PS Topic has been posted many time before.
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norcal
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:13 am

I tried a search on WNs accident record, and I didn't find any, I also bet that neither F9 or B6 have had accidents either, but that is probably since they are so young and fly very new planes.

I don't know how to find accidents for the rest of the world, but try this for US airlines if you want to

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:15 am

easyjet never had an accident in the 10yrs they been operating

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Mon May 02, 2005 6:15 am

Quoting NorCal (Reply 2):
I tried a search on WNs accident record, and I didn't find any, I also bet that neither F9 or B6 have had accidents either, but that is probably since they are so young and fly very new planes

Don't you remember the WN bird that parked at the gas station across the street from Burbank?  Wink

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Mon May 02, 2005 6:18 am

Although Southwest had a landing accident in BUR a few years back, they have never been involved in a fatal accident. (Come to think of it though, a SWA passenger was beaten to death by other passengers when he tried to storm the cockpit). Also, I believe Hawaiian Airlines has gone without a fatal accident as well. And yes, Qantas.
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:21 am

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
Don't you remember the WN bird that parked at the gas station across the street from Burbank?

Nope I don't remember that. My bad. Glad to know that no one died. How come that didn't come up in my search? I searched for all accidents fatal and non-fatal from the earliest possible date (1962, before WN existed) till yesterday. That can't possibly count as an incident can it?

Thanks for correcting my mistake
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:27 am

Quoting NorCal (Reply 6):
That can't possibly count as an incident can it?

It might have. I forget the criteria they use to determine accidents, incidents, and stuff like that.

Harry
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:37 am

Nor Cal:

I hope this link works....it's for you.
What Happened To This Southwest 733? (by Ts-ior Apr 20 2005 in Civil Aviation)

This was discussed just last week.
United's B747-400. "She's a a cruel lover."
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:40 am

Thanks for the link Jamake1
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:41 am

Thinking of the top of my had, I know that Finnair never had any incidents in all the years they've been operating. Also, many new eastern european carriers are too young to have the history of accidents. Air Baltic comes to mind as an example.
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Mon May 02, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 5):
Although Southwest had a landing accident in BUR a few years back, they have never been involved in a fatal accident. (Come to think of it though, a SWA passenger was beaten to death by other passengers when he tried to storm the cockpit). Also, I believe Hawaiian Airlines has gone without a fatal accident as well. And yes, Qantas.

America West? AirTran? jetBlue?

used copy and paste function...

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Mon May 02, 2005 6:45 am

Worldways Canada never had an accident, and either did Wardair Canada, there are hundreds of other airlines that have not had accidents.
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 7:45 am

Quoting Rootsgirl (Reply 12):
there are hundreds of other airlines that have not had accidents.

Good point Rootsgirl, if we consider all the minor and the just-started airlines we're gonna find a lot of them without any accident/incident.
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Mon May 02, 2005 8:54 am

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 1):
According to the film 'Rainman' Qantas has never been involved in any loss of life accident, although I know since the film they had a plane leave the runway upon landing (though no loss of life or injuries I believe).

Totally incorrect. This has been said several times before, but Qantas has had fatal accidents before. Qantas just hasn't had a fatal jet aircraft accident. A list of Qantas' fatal accidents:

  • 16 July 1951: VH-EBQ, de Havilland Drover II, Near Lae, New Guinea (7 fatalities)
  • 11 October, 1944: VH-ABB, Short S-23 flying boat, Sydney, Australia (1)
  • 26 November, 1943: VH-CAB, Lockheed L-18-56 Lodestar, Port Moresby, New Guinea (15)
  • 22 April, 1943: VH-ADU, Short S-23 flying boat, Off Port Moresby, New Guinea (13)
  • 20 February, 1942: VH-USE, deHavilland DH-86, Off Belmont, Brisbane, Australia (9)
  • 15 November, 1934: VH-USG, de Havilland DH-86, Near Longreach, NSW, Australia (4)
  • 24 March, 1927: G-AUED, de Havilland DH-9C, Tambo, Qld, Australia (3)


Many airlines have not had fatal accidents, but most have had incidents that warrented a report to the government. Even JetBlue and Frontier have had reportable incidents.


Quoting Newark777 (Reply 7):
It might have. I forget the criteria they use to determine accidents, incidents, and stuff like that.

I believe the NTSB's criteria has a lot to do with the amount of damage that occurred and the cost of the damage. Once you pass the accident threshold, the NTSB classifies it either fatal or nonfatal.
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 9:19 am

Dont forget QANTAS also like running off the end of runways, breaking the back of a 747, being told by the Boeing reps it was a write-off, but having James Strong concerned for QANTAS's image regarding never lost a turbine aircraft, saying NO! it will fly again no matter what the cost......
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 10:45 am

ATA hasn't had a fatal accident in its 30+ years of flying some rather incredible flights; nor has their former regional airline Chicago Express in its over 10 years of service in the midwest.

joe
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 11:04 am

Quoting AussieAMEgirl (Reply 15):
Dont forget QANTAS also like running off the end of runways, breaking the back of a 747, being told by the Boeing reps it was a write-off, but having James Strong concerned for QANTAS's image regarding never lost a turbine aircraft, saying NO! it will fly again no matter what the cost......

That's right... the B744 that ran off the runway at BKK.
Funny thing is that after repairs, I believe QF offloaded that particular B774 quick smart. Is that correct?
who is operating that aircraft now?
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 11:06 am

FYI - I belive that Olympic Airlines in it's current form has never had a fatal accident.
Having said than an ATR landed in ATH last week minus the front wheel.
emergency landing executed spot on i believe.
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 11:10 am

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 5):
Come to think of it though, a SWA passenger was beaten to death by other passengers when he tried to storm the cockpit).

Actually, he wasn't beaten to death. It was likely a combination of his severely agitated state combined with lack of oxygen as they held him down. Really a sad story, as he was just out of high school and had actually been a very popular kid, athlete and excellent student. He just went crazy.

As is though, the landing accident at BUR was WN's only real accident and no one was killed.
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Mon May 02, 2005 11:33 am

What exactly is considered an accident or incident? It can be quite vague depending on who you ask. I actually covered this in a class this semester. Aviation Safety Program Management. I need to look and see what the book said as the exact answer.
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Mon May 02, 2005 12:03 pm

Qantas is still operating that BKK overrun aircraft. (VH-OJH)

The most recent photo of her back in FEB 05

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Below is the report:

http://www.atsb.gov.au/aviation/acci/ojh/summary_a.cfm
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 12:05 pm

Quoting September11 (Reply 11):
AirTran?

As I recall, AirTran is an incarnation of ValuJet, and I'm sure many people remember the flight they lost in the Florida Everglades.
 
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Mon May 02, 2005 12:36 pm

Quoting September11 (Reply 11):

America West? AirTran? jetBlue?

James Allaway, Miami
Aliyagi Landry, Hollywood, Fla.
Saeeda Allihassen, Atlanta
Dana Lyn Nelson-Lane, Alpharetta, Ga
Isabel Anderson, Cookeville, Tn.
Roger David Lane, Alpharetta, Ga.
Leslie Archibald, Opa-Locka, Fla.
Ray Lathem, Alpharetta, Ga.
Rizwan Arshad, Philadelphia
Leonard, Cloverdale, Ind.
Giuseppe Bafunno, Blackwood, N.J.
Jeremy Leonard, Cloverdale, Ind.
Sean Baker
Tabitha Leonard, Cloverdale, Ind
Marlo Balandran, Topeka, Kan.
Jimmy Lewis, Fayetteville, Ga.
Thomas Balandran, Topeka, Kan.
Devlin Loughney, United Kingdom
Jen Barreiro, Bloomington, Ind.
Roger Loughney, United Kingdom
Herbert Bell, Elkwood, Va.
Philmore Marks, Miami
Peggy Bell, Elkwood, Va.
Betty McLemore, Tybee Island, Ga.
Terri Bell, The Colony, Texas
Clark McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Anthony Brown, Rose Hill, N.C.
Judy McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Frances Brown, Baltimore
Laura McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Lynn Brown, Rose Hill, N.C.
Lindsey McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Joe Burnett, Shawnee Mission, Kan.
Neil McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Cecilia Cabrera, Miami Judy Medeiros, Rex, Ga.
Ron Carpenter, Murfreesboro, Tn.
Robert Medeiros, Rex, Ga.
Lisa Carleton, Conyers, Ga.
Ella Mitchell, Miami
Ninon Corneille, Lynn, Mass.
Nevil, Raleigh, N.C.
Edna Crye, Richmond, Ind.
Lucille Newbold, Nassau, Bahamas
Ken Crye, Richmond, Ind.
Maxwell Newbold, Nassau, Bahamas
Karen Culver, Woodstock, Ga.
Whilhelmina Oliver, Athens, Ga.
Rodney Culver, Woodstock, Ga.
Lisa Pearson, Kansas City, Mo.
Lori Cushing, Austin, Texas
Flight Attendant
Laurese Perkins, Miami
Daniel Darbor, Atlanta
David Quinones, Dallas
Mansoor Darbor, Atlanta
Elida Ramirez, Dunwoody, Ga.
Bradley Ehrlichman, Indianapolis
Donna Rennolds, Plymouth, Mich.
Betsy Favero, Duluth, Ga.
Kimberly Rennolds, Ypsilanti, Mich.
Franco Favero, Duluth, Ga.
Howard Rietz, Mt. Juliet, Tenn.
Laura Favero, Duluth, Ga.
Terri Rugg, Richmond, Ind.
Charles Fluitt, Miami
Dennis Sabo, Auburn, Ala.
Deana Gabr, Conyers, Ga.
Ana Sanchez, Metairie, La.
Pamela Gabr, Conyers, Ga.
Karin Shier, Savannah, Ga.
Elizabeth Gabriel, Mooresville, N.C.
Vi Shier, Peachtree City, Ga.
Carlos Gonzales, Alpharetta, Ga.
Ailven Shotwell, College Park, Ga.
Angie Greene, Nashville, Tenn.
Jarvis Shotwell, College Park, Ga.
Mark Griner, Marietta, Ga.
Joyce Simonton, Macon, Ga.
Steve Guiler, Buford, Ga.
Paul Smith, Montgomery, Ala.
Conway Hamilton, Miami
Joelaun Snowden, Nashville
Laurie Hamilton, Miami
Hugh Stanley, Gainesville, Ga.
Carol Hanchey, Conyers, Ga.
Louise Stanley, Gainesville, Ga.
John Hanchey, Conyers, Ga.
Jennifer Stearns, Farmers Branch, Texas
Flight Attendant
Elaine Hayman, Columbus, Ohio Fred Steinbrenner, Acworth, Ga.
Robert Hayman, Columbus, Ohio Mandy Summers, Irving, Texas Flight Attendant
Richard Hazen, Mineola, Texas First Officer
Jerrold Thompson, Kansas City, Mo.
Susan Heffernan, Murfreesboro, Tenn.
Roosevelt Tillman, Lynchburg, Va.
Walter Hyatt, Nashville, Tenn.
Lila Viloleta, Alpharetta, Ga.
Dan Jarvis, Gastonia, N.C.
Delmarie Walker, Erie, Pa.
Linda Paschall Jarvis, Gastonia, N.C.
James Weimer, Cloverdale, Ind.
Kathleen Kessler, Atlanta
Janice Weimer, Cloverdale, Ind.
I. Son Kim, Shawnee Mission, Kan.
Teresa Wilson, Tybee Island, Ga.
Candalyn Kubeck, Phoenix, Arizona Captain
Ruth Wolfe, Gainesville,Ga.
Rafael Lameda, Cookevill , Tenn.
Robert Woodus, Pine Bluff, Ark..

All disagree with you.

AA ndrew
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 12:11 am

I believe the original Midway Airlines (ML) that operated from 1979 to 1992 never had an accident. I don't recall the second Midway Airlines, which started out with a hub at MDW, but moved it to RDU, ever having an accident, but I'm not absolutely certain.
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 3:50 am

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 10):
Thinking of the top of my had, I know that Finnair never had any incidents in all the years they've been operating.

Yes, not under that marketing name. There were two DC-3 total losses, in 1961 and 1963. AY jet aircraft and passengers have avoided flight damage and injuries for the last 45 years, there were one or two Convairs that landed hard some time in the 60's, but were repaired in-house.



[Edited 2005-05-02 21:06:24]
 
av757
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Tue May 03, 2005 3:57 am

Here is a link to airsafe.com where you can find some information on airlines without accidents or fatal events.

http://www.airsafe.com/events/nofatals.htm

Regards:
AV757
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 4:00 am

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 24):
I believe the original Midway Airlines (ML) that operated from 1979 to 1992 never had an accident. I don't recall the second Midway Airlines, which started out with a hub at MDW, but moved it to RDU, ever having an accident, but I'm not absolutely certain.

I agree...i dont think Midway had any problems...but i might be wrong.
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 4:02 am

Quoting Fbm3rd (Reply 27):
I agree...i dont think Midway had any problems...but i might be wrong.

Maybe not travel problems, but definitely financial problems..  Wink
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Tue May 03, 2005 4:48 am

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 23):
James Allaway, Miami
Aliyagi Landry, Hollywood, Fla.
Saeeda Allihassen, Atlanta
Dana Lyn Nelson-Lane, Alpharetta, Ga
Isabel Anderson, Cookeville, Tn.
Roger David Lane, Alpharetta, Ga.
Leslie Archibald, Opa-Locka, Fla.
Ray Lathem, Alpharetta, Ga.
Rizwan Arshad, Philadelphia
Leonard, Cloverdale, Ind.
Giuseppe Bafunno, Blackwood, N.J.
Jeremy Leonard, Cloverdale, Ind.
Sean Baker
Tabitha Leonard, Cloverdale, Ind
Marlo Balandran, Topeka, Kan.
Jimmy Lewis, Fayetteville, Ga.
Thomas Balandran, Topeka, Kan.
Devlin Loughney, United Kingdom
Jen Barreiro, Bloomington, Ind.
Roger Loughney, United Kingdom
Herbert Bell, Elkwood, Va.
Philmore Marks, Miami
Peggy Bell, Elkwood, Va.
Betty McLemore, Tybee Island, Ga.
Terri Bell, The Colony, Texas
Clark McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Anthony Brown, Rose Hill, N.C.
Judy McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Frances Brown, Baltimore
Laura McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Lynn Brown, Rose Hill, N.C.
Lindsey McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Joe Burnett, Shawnee Mission, Kan.
Neil McNitt, Powder Springs, Ga.
Cecilia Cabrera, Miami Judy Medeiros, Rex, Ga.
Ron Carpenter, Murfreesboro, Tn.
Robert Medeiros, Rex, Ga.
Lisa Carleton, Conyers, Ga.
Ella Mitchell, Miami
Ninon Corneille, Lynn, Mass.
Nevil, Raleigh, N.C.
Edna Crye, Richmond, Ind.
Lucille Newbold, Nassau, Bahamas
Ken Crye, Richmond, Ind.
Maxwell Newbold, Nassau, Bahamas
Karen Culver, Woodstock, Ga.
Whilhelmina Oliver, Athens, Ga.
Rodney Culver, Woodstock, Ga.
Lisa Pearson, Kansas City, Mo.
Lori Cushing, Austin, Texas
Flight Attendant
Laurese Perkins, Miami
Daniel Darbor, Atlanta
David Quinones, Dallas
Mansoor Darbor, Atlanta
Elida Ramirez, Dunwoody, Ga.
Bradley Ehrlichman, Indianapolis
Donna Rennolds, Plymouth, Mich.
Betsy Favero, Duluth, Ga.
Kimberly Rennolds, Ypsilanti, Mich.
Franco Favero, Duluth, Ga.
Howard Rietz, Mt. Juliet, Tenn.
Laura Favero, Duluth, Ga.
Terri Rugg, Richmond, Ind.
Charles Fluitt, Miami
Dennis Sabo, Auburn, Ala.
Deana Gabr, Conyers, Ga.
Ana Sanchez, Metairie, La.
Pamela Gabr, Conyers, Ga.
Karin Shier, Savannah, Ga.
Elizabeth Gabriel, Mooresville, N.C.
Vi Shier, Peachtree City, Ga.
Carlos Gonzales, Alpharetta, Ga.
Ailven Shotwell, College Park, Ga.
Angie Greene, Nashville, Tenn.
Jarvis Shotwell, College Park, Ga.
Mark Griner, Marietta, Ga.
Joyce Simonton, Macon, Ga.
Steve Guiler, Buford, Ga.
Paul Smith, Montgomery, Ala.
Conway Hamilton, Miami
Joelaun Snowden, Nashville
Laurie Hamilton, Miami
Hugh Stanley, Gainesville, Ga.
Carol Hanchey, Conyers, Ga.
Louise Stanley, Gainesville, Ga.
John Hanchey, Conyers, Ga.
Jennifer Stearns, Farmers Branch, Texas
Flight Attendant
Elaine Hayman, Columbus, Ohio Fred Steinbrenner, Acworth, Ga.
Robert Hayman, Columbus, Ohio Mandy Summers, Irving, Texas Flight Attendant
Richard Hazen, Mineola, Texas First Officer
Jerrold Thompson, Kansas City, Mo.
Susan Heffernan, Murfreesboro, Tenn.
Roosevelt Tillman, Lynchburg, Va.
Walter Hyatt, Nashville, Tenn.
Lila Viloleta, Alpharetta, Ga.
Dan Jarvis, Gastonia, N.C.
Delmarie Walker, Erie, Pa.
Linda Paschall Jarvis, Gastonia, N.C.
James Weimer, Cloverdale, Ind.
Kathleen Kessler, Atlanta
Janice Weimer, Cloverdale, Ind.
I. Son Kim, Shawnee Mission, Kan.
Teresa Wilson, Tybee Island, Ga.
Candalyn Kubeck, Phoenix, Arizona Captain
Ruth Wolfe, Gainesville,Ga.
Rafael Lameda, Cookevill , Tenn.
Robert Woodus, Pine Bluff, Ark..

All disagree with you.

Who are they? Imaginary friends of yours?
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aa757first
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Tue May 03, 2005 5:54 am

No, they are the 110 persons who died in ValuJet 592.

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RE: Is There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Tue May 03, 2005 6:48 am

How about DH? They've won many maintenence awards, and I don't remember them ever having an accident.
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 6:56 am

"I know that Finnair never had any incidents in all the years they've been operating."

As mentiond above, they had two fatal crashes in the sixties under "Aero" brand. It's worth mentioning that Finnair brags about being 80 (?) years old, but conveniently forgets the Aero years, when accident stats are presented.
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 9:14 am

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 1):
According to the film 'Rainman' Qantas has never been involved in any loss of life accident, although I know since the film they had a plane leave the runway upon landing (though no loss of life or injuries I believe).

(Rolls eyes)

There should be an automated "rain Man Detector" to automatically delete any post relying upon screenplays for historical data.

Braniff II and Braniff III never had any accidents. Neither did Legend. Neither did TranStar, or MuseAir.

Whatever.
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Tue May 03, 2005 9:44 am

Quote:

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Ruth Wolfe, Gainesville,Ga.
Rafael Lameda, Cookevill , Tenn.
Robert Woodus, Pine Bluff, Ark..

All disagree with you.

That was kind of misleading as America West and JetBlue weren't involved.
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Tue May 03, 2005 4:03 pm

Quoting FFlyer (Reply 32):
"I know that Finnair never had any incidents in all the years they've been operating."

As mentioned above, they had two fatal crashes in the sixties under "Aero" brand. It's worth mentioning that Finnair brags about being 80 (?) years old, but conveniently forgets the Aero years, when accident stats are presented.

These 1961 and 1963 total losses are the only recorded accidents with losses of life from 1923, not including a Dragon Rapide that was shot down by the Soviet Union in peacetime on flight from Tallin to Helsinki in 1940. Later investigation has revealed it had carried sensitive intelligence material as mail away from Estonia.

The various web safety sites enjoy a total freedon to interpret the results. "Aero" -- "Fiinnish Airlines" and "Finnair" were used side by side during the transition period. I’ve never seen a related AY statement that could be interpreted as “bragging”.

Old company logos: http://www.finnairgroup.com/konserni/konserni_9_4.html

-Eilennaei
 
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Tue May 03, 2005 4:16 pm

BWIA also has not had a fatal accident in its history.
 
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Wed May 04, 2005 11:52 pm

Quoting BristolFlyer (Reply 1):
According to the film 'Rainman' Qantas has never been involved in any loss of life accident, although I know since the film they had a plane leave the runway upon landing (though no loss of life or injuries I believe).

Someone told me that the Qantas plane that ran off the runway was extensively damaged. It would otherwise have been written off but it was repaired so Qantas could keeo their reputation for not losing a plane in an accident. If I remember right I think it injested birds during take off and while trying to abort take off it left the run way. Congrats to Qantas for having such a good safety record for so many years.
 
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Mon May 09, 2005 12:06 pm

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 29):
Who are they? Imaginary friends of yours?

As someone who lost two very good friends in the Valujet accident I find your callous comment to be very insulting. The next time a little research might be in order before you decide to make a mockery of those who lost their lives in an horrific tragedy.
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Mon May 09, 2005 12:22 pm

Quoting Womack17 (Reply 38):
As someone who lost two very good friends in the Valujet accident I find your callous comment to be very insulting. The next time a little research might be in order before you decide to make a mockery of those who lost their lives in an horrific tragedy.

Quite frankly, I think the way the AA.ndrew presented that passenger list was at least inflamatory. Saying that FL had a fatal crash as ValuJet would have been sufficient
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Mon May 09, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 39):
Quite frankly, I think the way the AA.ndrew presented that passenger list was at least inflamatory. Saying that FL had a fatal crash as ValuJet would have been sufficient

It was pretty insensitive... Glad other folks noticed...
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Mon May 09, 2005 12:38 pm

Can somebody clarify what exactly is 'accident'.

An airline can have an accident that results in loss of life but not in hull loss. Example would be inflight turbulence where people have been killed because of not buckling up but that particular airframe continues to fly.

ATA has lost a DC-10 in a non-fatal fire some 20 years ago at ORD. That is an accident but fortunately resulted in no loss of life.

Accident or incident could mean an decompression incident like what JL 744 experienced on a flight from JFK to NRT or a simple aircraft overrun incident.

Aside from new airlines, QF has one of best safety records. Barring the 9-11 terrorist incidents, US majors have posted incredible safety records despite all the negative financial numbers coming out.
 
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Mon May 09, 2005 12:40 pm

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 23):
All disagree with you.

AA ndrew

If they all perished in the Valujet disaster I doubt they can object to anything at the moment. Hindsight is such a good thing after an accident but can never be retrospectively applied to save lives. RIP

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 37):
Someone told me that the Qantas plane that ran off the runway was extensively damaged. It would otherwise have been written off but it was repaired so Qantas could keeo their reputation for not losing a plane in an accident. If I remember right I think it injested birds during take off and while trying to abort take off it left the run way. Congrats to Qantas for having such a good safety record for so many years.

It aqua-planed on landing and slid off into a golf course. (Crass Summary but you can read the report link above for details) The aircraft was extensively damaged but was repaired at Qantas's insistence. And rightly so I might add. Qantas has been paying Insurance premiums for decades without making a claim so it was only fair they maintain their reputation and get the aircraft back in service.
 
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Mon May 09, 2005 12:50 pm

I went to see that WN crash at Burbank and it was a sight that I will never forget. I couldn't miss it. I mean the passengers could have just jumped from the plane and crossed the street for a smoothie at the gas station that's how close they were.

The funny part is there is a train station about 100 yards from the crash site and I wonder what passengers in the passing trains thought about the site. "Hmm, did I just see a southwest plane on Hollywood way?"
 
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RE: Are There Any Airlines That Never Got Accident?

Mon May 09, 2005 2:49 pm

Qantas Def.
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