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Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 12:23 am

Just saw an Alitalia MD80 coming in to land at Manchester.

Would other people agree with me that Alitalia's current livery, which dates, for you younger ones, from as far back as 1969, was/is a true classic.

To me, Alitalia's aircraft all still look fresh and modern in this livery and all the new types Alitalia have introduced since 1969 have looked good in it.

Quite an achievement for a thirty-six year old scheme and my hat off to the designer-does anyone know who he/she was?

Also, think of how many colour schemes other airlines have been through over the period 1969-2005 and how unimaginative some modern schemes look-eg Lufthansa, Air France, SN Brussels.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 12:27 am

It's the best damn livery about after RJ's.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 12:35 am

I agree, AZ has to change everything but the livery.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 12:56 am

It's a great livery!!!!! Air France: BORING! Lufthansa: BORING! What more can i say.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 1:01 am

I love the Alitalia livery, I just don't like the black noses!


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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 1:08 am

what is an achievement when you see this livery.... It is so ugly anf they cant tell me that it looked good in the old days... I would really appreciate if Alitalia would change it... Wouldnt be a great loss
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 1:17 am

Alitalia's livery is indeed one of my favorites in this hobby !!!
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 1:58 am

Another great Landor livery!
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 2:23 am

I have mixed feelings on this one. The livery looks good on some aircrafts but looks bad on others. For example, I think it looks / looked great on the big birds; MD-11, 777, 747, etc.


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There is really no real reason for this, it just looks old to me on the smaller aircrafts. I do agree though that it's nice to have AZ keeping with a livery that was original 30 years ago and it's still original now.

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 2:57 am

LEAVE THE LIVERY AS IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 3:14 am

Alitalia's livery/ID is perhaps its greatest asset, no need to change it. I particularly like it on the DC-10 and the MD-11  Smile

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 3:32 am

i love AZ's livery, very patriotic and looks sleek on the ERJ170 when i flew on one last November!

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 3:52 am

Actually, the "old" AZ colors were not bad at all...


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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 3:59 am

Whether you hate it or love it, you have to admit, AZ's livery is as original and timeless today as it was almost 40 years ago...

Black nose or not, that's up for debate, but the one thing that's for sure, Alitalia's logo will not change for a long time...
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 4:57 am

they will vanish from the market in a couple of years anyway
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 5:00 am

It is one of the liveries that make me stop and look every single time.. I really consider it one of the best, very stylish.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 5:37 am

I like it too it really reflects the colors of the flag in the country. AirFrance is like that as well, with PIA and a few others some could help me out with.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 5:38 am

Quoting Jush (Reply 14):
they will vanish from the market in a couple of years anyway

Sorry try again. They'll be here longer than you will Jsuh.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 5:55 am

That livery looks real nice on the MD-11's and MD-80's. It makes the plane look more sleeker.


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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:15 am

This is one of those "I know someone who knows the girlfriend of a guy who spoke with the son of the friend of the dude" posts...but I have heard it said that the guy who designed the new AC livery was working with Alitalia. He was suggesting they so a subtle Italian green on their aircrafts. He was promptly fired after AC's new scheme got such a bad response. Can you imagine Alitalia's livery with the AC's fuselage?! It would look so disgusting!
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:17 am

The only plane I don't like in AZ colors is the A330.



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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:22 am

I LOVE that livery. It looks more up to date than some liveries that are 35 years newer! No need to mess with a good thing. I agree that it looks wonderful on the MD-11's. I sure miss them here in MIA!

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:28 am

Quoting Propman (Thread starter):
Also, think of how many colour schemes other airlines have been through over the period 1969-2005 and how unimaginative some modern schemes look-eg Lufthansa, Air France, SN Brussels.

What's ugly on the SN brussels livery?


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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:32 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 22):
What's ugly on the SN brussels livery?

Personally I like it a lot  Smile
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:50 am

The alitalia livery used to be good, but now it needs to at least be updated, if not changed completely.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 7:00 am

I don't believe what I am reading! The AZ cheatline livery is simply a classic, beautiful and graceful reminder of an era in commercial aviation quickly fading from memory. I am sure that there are those on the AZ board who want to mimic LH, AF and other 'White Whale' clones  yuck  but I hope that thier wishes are never fulfilled.

No, keep it as is.

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 7:43 am

Definitely a classic. Hasn't dated at all
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 8:25 am

Looks great on the new E170's. It's also nice that they have "Alitalia" painted on the top of the wings of some aircraft.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 9:24 am

I've always liked the Alitalia livery, but I do prefer their special livery they had a few years ago on their 747's which was all silver basically. It was either the Bulova Watch logo or the Perugia logo (I believe it was Perugia I may be mistaken). Actually both of them were quite nice.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 9:38 am

DO NOT CHANGE A THING!

It's a living classic.

Quoting Jush (Reply 5):
It is so ugly and they cant tell me that it looked good in the old days



Quoting Jush (Reply 14):
they will vanish from the market in a couple of years anyway

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 10:22 am

AZ's livery, especially on their widebodies, looks awesome...along with AA, it's one of the few timeless ones around today.

Quoting CURLYHEADBOY (Reply 20):
The only plane I don't like in AZ colors is the A330.

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 10:27 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
I love the Alitalia livery, I just don't like the black noses!

Agreed on the livery, but I like the black nose - I think it adds something to it, though I can't place my finger on what exactly that is.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 10:29 am

The A330 is a beautiful ship.

But, like I told my ex-wife, "Don't wear WHITE, it makes you look fat." (Maybe that's why the old-bag isn't around anymore...)

The A330 looks much better in darker coloured liveries, like US Airways for example. (Pardon me, too tired and lazy to add photo....)
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 10:54 am

The black nose has got to go... it's like a huge mole especially on the ERJs! The 170, as ugly as it is, is made even more uglier with the mole.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 11:00 am

The A330 looks horrible in that livery, a completely different, shorter, fatter, bird than the one I know and love.

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 11:05 am

C'mon guys, how can you say she's ugly, just look at her...(God I miss these birds).

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 11:17 am

Personally, I would really love it if they brought back their old livery, even if it was only on a few A/C's, it's one of my favorite older liveries.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 6:43 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 32):
The A330 looks much better in darker coloured liveries, like US Airways for example. (Pardon me, too tired and lazy to add photo....)

Anyway it's likely that Eurofly widebodies will get the new livery soon, shouldn't look bad on the 330  Smile
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 9:58 pm

Quoting ETStar (Reply 33):
The black nose has got to go... it's like a huge mole especially on the ERJs! The 170, as ugly as it is, is made even more uglier with the mole.

Right !!! At least they should remove this damn black spot. The livery is so outdated, its a shame for the Italian design  Sad
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 10:23 pm

Quoting Stall (Reply 38):
Right !!! At least they should remove this damn black spot. The livery is so outdated, its a shame for the Italian design

'It's a hell of a lot better than anything that's come out of Switzerland in the last 30 years that's for sure...
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 10:30 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 39):
'It's a hell of a lot better than anything that's come out of Switzerland in the last 30 years that's for sure...

I totally agree with you  Big grin but I am sure italians can do much better than what they have got right now.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Tue May 03, 2005 11:17 pm

ALITALIA is the best looking airliner out there. Love the 747-200's. brings out a lot of memories. Just keep it like that.
 
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 12:12 am

it´s a nice livery, not the best, but a good one.

But one thing that makes me thinking, why it the black nose, it does not do well to rest of the plane, like this.


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see what I mean...

think they could use more green on the plane, I guess.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting AeroVodochody (Reply 36):
Personally, I would really love it if they brought back their old livery, even if it was only on a few A/C's, it's one of my favorite older liveries.

Like this?  bigthumbsup 

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I did that a while ago...I might try it on a 747, or an MD-11, if I have the time.

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 12:29 am

I don't want to veer to far off topic (or start a new one), but which routes do the Alitalia E170s serve?
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 6:52 am

Quoting Jush (Reply 14):
they will vanish from the market in a couple of years anyway

Hmmmm.... A Story Teller? Are We?

- United and US Airways will be long gone before Alitalia is taken out of the skies!

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 7:16 am

Quoting Airdolomiti (Reply 43):
Like this?

Yeah!  bigthumbsup  I think it beats the current one by a long shot!
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 10:14 am

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 42):

I believe the reason for the black nose tip is any dings or nics in the nose cone can be seen easier. The radar system is right behind that nose cone and the cone itself is made from a special material, so any imperfections with the nose cone can effect the performance of the radar. As far as I know its not required by any regulations.
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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 10:31 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 22):
What's ugly on the SN brussels livery?

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RE: Alitalia's Livery

Wed May 04, 2005 11:15 am

AeroVodochody...

Your comparison of A330's is not accurate. The Eurofly (Alitalia) A330 you used is an A332. The US Airways A330 you pictured is an A333. The A333 is much longer than the A332, so it makes sense that it looks more slender than Alitalia's. The livery has very little to do with it, as you can now see.

I think Alitalia's look is priceless and I hope it will stay around for many more years.

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