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Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:11 am

According to the latest issue of Business & Commercial Aviation, Jet Aviation & Airbus are about to announce the sale of an A380 to an undisclosed Middle Eastern Head of State. (surprise, surprise) Jet Aviation is Switzerland will be handling the interior completion. Geez, I wonder how long that will take. Longer than to make the aircraft itself I'd bet.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:21 am

It was always fairly obvious this would happen! "My plane's bigger than your plane", etc. Look forward to seeing whose it is.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:35 am

What kind of sq footage are we looking at inside three decks of luxury?

seems like such a waste.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:51 am

Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:51 am

Not the most practical since you can only take it to slot restricted hubs.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:59 am

Well the story about higher fuel-prices is the following :
-main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.
-secondary windfall profits are swept into the pockets of governments that continue to tax petrol-products at basically 400 % ontop the price of crude-oil.In France one liter of gasoline sells at about 1.25 € ( 1,50 $)- but taxes represent 82% of that amount.
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes .None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:09 am

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 2):
seems like such a waste.

Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.  banghead 
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

yup..blame everything on them....heck..how about The Gestapo or WWII? blame the Arabs for that too!  sarcastic 

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes .None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

couldn't agree with you more  yes 

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.

agree x2  yes 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:16 am

So THAT'S why I'm paying $2.54 a gallon!!!  Wink
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:18 am

A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:22 am

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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:22 am

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.

What an insightful description of the American political system!
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:22 am

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 10):
A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.

If the money is there, they could buy access to anywhere.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:41 am

As was mentioned in another thread earlier, if the A380 was purchased as a private jet then the aircraft would not use public terminal facilities. so.....the A380 would be able to land at any airport that takes scheduled/regular B747 aircraft, and use remote stands or VIP area If it is going to an Arab royal family or billionaire then it will more than likely be making regular visits to LHR,NCE,GVA,NYC,LAX and a few others, somehow I don't see it on regualar trips to CVT or IBZ...

If I had the money I would buy one....
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:57 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

Chances are they already have the funds in their own bank accounts so they do not need to 'borrow' from us, get it?

Recovering and refining oil is a giant business and people own those businesses, does any of you actually expect them to NOT flaunt their lifestyles?

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 10):
A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.

A private A380 will be much lighter than the commercial counterpart, hence less pavement loading, hence less takeoff/landing distance = more and more airports are within reach. Besides, how many times has an international leader visited your home country in their own large airplane?

Span is another issue though. Big grin
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:00 am

But don't the airports have to upgrade the taxiways (make them stronger and wider) for the A380? Will airports like NCE and GVA upgrade the taxiways just so they can handle a private A380?
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:07 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

This is a capitalist world where businesses can set the prices to whatever they want because they are free to do so. If you increase the price of your product and they still keep getting strong sales, why in heavens would you lower the price? The oil business is just like any other business (airline, restaurant, etc...) If you can't afford to fuel your Ford Explorer, get an Echo.

Well back to the subject, I wonder how often it's going to fly. I know one of their private A340 only has 300 hours and was built in 1999, talk about AOG!
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:10 am

Some reports published earlier , said the King of Jordan is interested in an A380
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:10 am

Quoting Trident2e (Reply 12):
What an insightful description of the American political system!

Have you seen anyone in the government in a widebody private plane besides the President?
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:11 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
-main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.

Currently transport capacities (pipelines, tankers) are the bottleneck. The scapegoats you are looking for are at first a booming world economy, at second people who don't care about saving fossil energy and at third ship owners who paid attention to basic classes in economics.

The more sensitive the price the lower the margins for dealers. And I would call the price extremely sensitive. Also the oil price is the result of market interactions, ergo supply and demand. And it doesn't make any sense for the oil producers (mainly OPEC members) to increase oil production (supply) over the supply on the transport market. Thus supply remains scarce and the price is high. It may sound plain, but: It needs some time to build tankers and pipelines.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
-secondary windfall profits are swept into the pockets of governments that continue to tax petrol-products at basically 400 % ontop the price of crude-oil.In France one liter of gasoline sells at about 1.25 € ( 1,50 $)- but taxes represent 82% of that amount.

In the US you get more than 4 Liters for that and these are the folks crying loudest and using (or should I "wasting"?) the most.

The tax problem goes for the entire EU, maybe that's the reason why our "per capita fossil fuel consumption" is only half of that in the US, although our economic output, as an important metric here, is comparable to theirs. Environmentally fuel taxes are a success story at least in closed markets, so no taxes on kerosene please.

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes. None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

Your argument is a adventurous. Let's call it "environmental education" by taxes.

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil. banghead

Amazing how easy it is to bash stereotypes, isn't it ? ...  sarcastic . But I understand: One needs to have a clear-cut concept of the enemy for orientation in life.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:17 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15):
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 9):
Well if you have a 50 wives and a 500 kids, you need a A-380 to travel..

thanks for your stupid,idiotic, and worthless twocents post....... butthead

That argument isn't fetched from that afar: The inner circle of the Saudi royal family is estimated to something around 700-2000 people!!! You could fill 3 A380 with just inner circle ...
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:19 am

An A380 as a corporate/private jet is overkill to say the least. But if you got the money, hell, why not?
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:20 am

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 17):
But don't the airports have to upgrade the taxiways (make them stronger and wider) for the A380? Will airports like NCE and GVA upgrade the taxiways just so they can handle a private A380?

I do not know what kinds of airplanes have been able to t/o and land at those airports.

However, if a private A380 was able to become as light as a fully loaded proposed 74Adv, tell me where all it could go, in fact how far can it go?
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:34 am

Several Heads of State have a B747 already.

If it is a case of going one bigger and better...

Some will dispute the former, but IMO there is no doubt that the A380 is bigger than a B747.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 6:58 am

[quote=Lehpron,reply=16]Chances are they already have the funds in their own bank accounts so they do not need to 'borrow' from us, get it?

Yeah I get it every time I fill up my tank, I take it another time...... If you really feel otherwise than your new friend is obviously denial, and not the river.

This from someone who is actually excited about a new Back Street Boys CD, that there tells me a slew more than anything.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:08 am

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 21):
Currently transport capacities (pipelines, tankers) are the bottleneck. The scapegoats you are looking for are at first a booming world economy, at second people who don't care about saving fossil energy and at third ship owners who paid attention to basic classes in economics.

Shipping is not a problem on this continent, in fact last time I owned an oil shipping stock, there was talk of over-capacity. Problem here is lack of refineries.

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 21):
The tax problem goes for the entire EU, maybe that's the reason why our "per capita fossil fuel consumption" is only half of that in the US, although our economic output, as an important metric here, is comparable to theirs.

That economic information is factually incorrect any way you look at it. Start with GDP. As for fuel use, I won't try to make excuses except to say that we use 25% of the worlds oil and produce 30% of the worlds goods.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:17 am

Quoting Espion007 (Reply 11):
But seriously, If I had the money I would do the same.

My thoughts exactly!  Smile Heck, I would love to just have a BBJ or 319CJ (Sorry, forgot the exact classification).

This will definitely be interesting when they determine the layout of this thing! Man, it would be cool!
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:18 am

If you could afford an A380 because of several billion $'s in the bank, you would buy one as well! Also if you have that kind of money, you must do something right, regardless.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:20 am

Quoting C680 (Reply 8):

Count yourself lucky.

In the UK it's $6.1332 for (American) Gallon. You get no change from $75 from filling your car up.

We buy it by the Liter - soon we'll be buying fuel by the teaspoon at this rate!
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:28 am

Well if you have a 50 wives and a 500 kids, you need a A-380 to travel..


So the extreme Mormon fundamentalists will be using their tithing to buy a few, then?  Wink
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:35 am

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 10):
A private A380 will not be able to land at alot of airports beacause most airports will not be able to handle a A380.

This is not absolutly right. Actually an A 380 can land at any airport where a 747 or 777 can land. The runways are not the problem (though some taxiways). It is the stands and terminals. But this privat 380 does not need a gate. They can park them at a remote stand.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 7:42 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

Has it occured to anyone that if oil prices go through the roof, European governments that have added 400% to the price (you say in France that 82% of the pump price is tax) could lower that tax to cushion the blow.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 9:27 am

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes

Well said ... I paid 2.78 per gallon today! Do airlines pay taxes in the cost of Jet A?
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 9:34 am

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 2):
What kind of sq footage are we looking at inside three decks of luxury?

A 747 has something on the order of 4,200 sq. ft. of usable cabin, space, so I'd guess an A380 has gotta have at least 6000 sq. ft., maybe as much as 7 or 8,000 sq ft.?

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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 9:34 am

Quoting Chgoflyer (Reply 34):
Well said ... I paid 2.78 per gallon today!

I agree, but then we in the UK pay nearly $10 for a gallon!!!
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 10:19 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 26):
Yeah I get it every time I fill up my tank, I take it another time...... If you really feel otherwise than your new friend is obviously denial, and not the river.

Keep in mind filling up your vehicle's tank is entire your choice (whether or not you 'have to' or 'want to' or 'need to'), but to complain as you did and to continue filling your tank is stupid. That is like participating in a job strike but continuing to work at the same place you are striking against. Smart.  Yeah sure

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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 10:41 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 9):
Well if you have a 50 wives and a 500 kids, you need a A-380 to travel..

that's a good one  crowded 

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
Well the story about higher fuel-prices is the following :
-main beneficiaries are among (some ) arabs mainly traders in the USA ,Asia and Europe who push up the prices for crude-oil to unsane levels.
-secondary windfall profits are swept into the pockets of governments that continue to tax petrol-products at basically 400 % ontop the price of crude-oil.In France one liter of gasoline sells at about 1.25 € ( 1,50 $)- but taxes represent 82% of that amount.
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes .None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

Indeed, but what can we do about it?
maybe slam our capitals to pieces when they don't lower tax! box 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 10:47 am

I just want to reiterate what's been said... an A380 can land at any airport a 747 can, and since its not a scheduled flight special arrangements can be made to handle the plane on the ground.

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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 11:04 am

Here's a suggestion regarding petrol & pricing that I received today which seems to be gaining momentum in Australia:

http://www.esvp.asn.au/

This initiative does come from Barry Minster, worth calling and chatting to him if you need reassurance.

Apparently we are going to hit close to $1.35 a litre by the winter. If this happens the prices will flow on down to the price of every thing we buy!  Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain "day" campaign that was going around last April or May!

The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt ourselves" by refusing to buy petrol.  It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
 
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at .89 / .95 cents, we need to
take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to seethe price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol!
 
And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are: BP and Mobil). If they are not
selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of BP and Mobil buyers.

It's really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more, (30 x 10 = 300) ...and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...
and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.

That's all. (and not buy at BP and Mobil) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of
receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within
the next 8 days!!!  I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much
potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 80 CENTS A LITRE RANGE.

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Caltex, Etc. and drive past BP and MOBIL Stations.


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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 11:08 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy



Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.



Quoting C680 (Reply 8):
So THAT'S why I'm paying $2.54 a gallon!!!

I don’t see anything wrong with owning oilrigs. Oil is not expensive because they owned them but because we greedy westerners keep wasting them all the time.

There are things that are much more expensive than oil. Gold, titanium, Alumunium even water which is much more expensive. We don’t' seem to mind to pay $1.00 for 350ml of coke which is completely useless. If you hate them so much, maybe you should sell your car and start riding a bike like people do in developing countries and stop bitching about high price of oil.

[Edited 2005-05-03 04:31:52]
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting Trident2e (Reply 12):
Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.

What an insightful description of the American political system!

Sad but true...

Quoting AirbusCanada (Reply 41):

I don’t see anything wrong with owning oilrigs. and oil is not expensive because they owned them but because we greedy westerners keep wasting them all the time.

My point was not as much to balme the oil tycoons as much to point out that the west is allowing them to get rich while we (1) overuse oil, and (2) are effectively unwilling to find alternative solutions to conserve oil. I am actually agreeing with you 100%.

[Edited 2005-05-03 04:26:25]
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 1:32 pm

I know its non-av, but in regards to someone above who stated the problem was leack of refineries, that is partly true, however there is also a bottleneck in shipping (at least to North America). If anyone recalls the 1988 EXXON Valdez, they will remember that soon after, legislation was passed that at a point of time in the future (which is now) only double-hulled tankers would be permitted to transport oil to North American Ports (possibly the world---not sure). There IS currently a shortage of double-hulled tankers, therefore supply is not the problem, it is the availability of double-hulled tankers.

Refineries do play a part, as the choose the peak demand season (summer) to perform yearly maintenance on their refineries, thus reducing their output.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 2:21 pm

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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 15):
thanks for your stupid,idiotic, and worthless post.......

That's quite enough of that mean-mouthed flaming young man! It wasn't anywhere near as worthless as yours, grow up and try to make intelligent comments.

Logistically his comment was spot-on!
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 2:28 pm

My friend and I joked about what we would do if we had our own A380.

It came down to using it as a flying school like the peace boat. $10,000 per student...200 students. Fly it from country to country for about 2 months stopping off and learning. Kids live on the plane.

We then decided that with the way our business is going...we could never handle an A380 and we could never fly it. So...we then joked about a private 787. It worked out much better. 50 students and only $5000 a head for 6 weeks. Economically and logisticaly works better.

Sadly it is only a dream...Damn good one though.
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 2:30 pm

Funny...

Some people complain about waste, while their very own Prez flies in with a whole armada of planes, manages to completely shut down every city he visits (talk about welding the sewer canals close...). But one guy who has cash and family wants a big toy...d'oh, what a wasteful behavior...

Is this all envy?

There still is the 747 special freighter which can sure be converted into a governmental aircraft to show off some size...
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 2:51 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

True Story. A sad one also.
 
Beaucaire
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 3:00 pm

Quoting FCKC (Reply 19):
Some reports published earlier , said the King of Jordan is interested in an A380

I have some doubts as to the King of Jordan spending that amount of cash on a hughe toy-plane.Jordan is a relatively poor country with no major oil or gas resources, and the king of Jordan one of the "less wealthy" regents in the M.E..
He has shown restraint and balance in his reign so far .
The likelyhood that corporate A380's beeing bought in the M.E. is big,but more likely orders would be comming from the Gulf-states.
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Udo
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 4:58 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 3):
Well we will all pay for it in higher fuel prices so they can have this toy.

Wrong. Blame China's growing economy, or the hundreds of thousands big fat SUVs and so-called trucks which are widely used to drive 500 meters in order to pick up some cheeseburgers. THAT's a waste.  covereyes 

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 6):
Amazing what people will do when they control enough oil.

Excuse me, but who controls Iraq's oil?  scratchchin 

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
yup..blame everything on them....heck..how about The Gestapo or WWII? blame the Arabs for that too!

Wow, Jacobin - we agree again!  wideeyed 

Quoting Mham001 (Reply 27):
As for fuel use, I won't try to make excuses except to say that we use 25% of the worlds oil and produce 30% of the worlds goods.

Which would be much more balanced without all these fuel wasting contraptions on four wheels...or more...  yuck 

Quoting Nudelhirsch (Reply 46):
Some people complain about waste, while their very own Prez flies in with a whole armada of planes, manages to completely shut down every city he visits (talk about welding the sewer canals close...)

Well said. I'm wondering how many thousands of gallons all these planes wasted while circling around FRA which was closed just because of one unwanted visitor...  vomit 


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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:06 pm

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 5):
So before bitching on the arabs we better bitch on our governments who -despite rise in crude-oil prices-accept an even steeper leveraged price due to higher taxes .None of the european governmenst has suggested to ease the level of taxes on the petrol to ease the pain on our budgets.They are the real maffia gang !!!

I don't agree. Of course it's annoying to pay, but the real responsibles are those who consume all that oil. Oil is too expensive ? Buy an efficient car, no more excuses.
 
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RE: Corporate (Private) A380 Confirmed

Tue May 03, 2005 5:07 pm

So the first A380VIP -or whatever it is going be called- is more or less confirmed then? I wonder how much will follow in the years to come?

I mean, we all know the leaders of those tiny but wealthy gulf region states are very sensative to the visual appearances of wealth, power and prestige by their next door neighbours and continuously want to surpass it be showing off even more, so Airbus most likely may have launched itself in a very lucrative market segment where they could sell a dozen or so A380s... All single orders at list price or even fairly above! Talking about a money maker!

Does anybody know how many 'private' B747s there are in that region?
And how many B767s or A340s?
That should help us make an educated guess about the sales potential of the A380VIP in the Gulf alone....

[Edited 2005-05-03 10:10:02]

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