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Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 8:10 am

Airtran applied to the DOT today to obtain authority to fly ATL-CUN, MCO-CUN and TPA-CUN. Service would start in December, with ATL-CUN being daily, and TPA/MCO-CUN occuring once a week.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf92/327746_web.pdf

It'll be interesting to see if DL responds with MCO-CUN or TPA-CUN. No US carrier flies this route, so two US carriers would be allowed.
 
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 8:19 am

There's no other carrier besides DL holding authority on ATL-CUN right now? I find that hard to believe.
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 8:25 am

Atlanta, Georgia and Cancun, Mexico. AirTran Airways plans to
commence daily non-stop services on December 15,2005 using B-717-200 or B-
737-700 aircraft configured at 1 17 seats or 137 seats respectively. The daily nonstops
will depart Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (ATL) at 0920
hours, arriving Cancun at 1055 hours. In the northbound direction, the daily nonstops
will depart Cancun at 1145 hours, arriving ATL at 1525 hours. Block times
for the round-trip flights will thus be 5.25 hours.’
(B). Orlando, Florida and Cancun. Mexico. AirTran Airways plans to
commence once weekly non-stop service on December 15,2005 using B-7 17-200
or B-737-700 aircraft configured at 1 17seats or 137 seats respectively. The nonstop
flight will depart Orlando International Airport (MCO) at 1230 hours,
arriving Cancun at 1335 hours. In the northbound direction, the non-stop flightwill depart Cancun at 1425 hours, arriving at MCO at 171 5 hours. Block times
for the round-trip flights will thus be 3.9 hours.

(C). Tampa, Florida and Cancun, Mexico. AirTran Airways plans to commence
once weekly non-stop service on December 15,2005 using B-717-200 or B-737-
700 aircraft configured at 1 17seats or 137 seats respectively. The non-stop flight
will depart Tampa International Airports (TPA) at 1 1 15 hours, arriving Cancun at
12 15 hours. In the northbound direction, the non-stop flight will depart Cancun at
1305 hours, arriving at TPA at 1555 hours. Block times for the round-trip flights
will thus be 2.8 hours.3
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 8:25 am

I always hoped FL would add some soutbound spokes out of TPA or MCO. Once a week isn't much but it's a start.

Of course timing is everything, if those flights leave Florida in the a.m., it's just more point to point.
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 8:58 am

ummmm...doesn't USA3000 fly ATL-CUN or are they exempt from the "2 carrier rule" for some reason?
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 9:46 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
There's no other carrier besides DL holding authority on ATL-CUN right now? I find that hard to believe.

DL serves twice daily (3x on the weekends) and AM serves once daily. Each codeshare on each others flights.
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 10:21 am

Transmeridian flies ATL-CUN twice a week, and yes i think USA3K does also (or did). I beleive they are except because they are not "scheduled" carriers.

I would also expect a SJU announcement from Airtran... and there are 2 more cities..

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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:04 am

I wonder if BWI and PHL are also possibilities for CUN and even SJU if you say 2 possible cities. BWI only has service to CUN on USA3000 unscheduled i believe and PHL has both US and USA3000.
 
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:10 am

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 7):
I wonder if BWI and PHL are also possibilities for CUN and even SJU if you say 2 possible cities. BWI only has service to CUN on USA3000 unscheduled i believe and PHL has both US and USA3000.

No, they are not.

BWI is part of WAS, which has scheduled service on both USA 3000 and United Airlines. US Airways applied for IAD-CUN and BWI-CUN last year and was rejected because of this.

PHL has USA 3000 and US Airways.

USA 3000 is not a charter airline. They are a scheduled airline that also operates charters.
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:15 am

Forgot BWI was part of WAS.

USA3000 is a scheduled airline but the services they operate to CUN are charter operations on behalf of Apple Vacations. Do these charter operations still count towards the airline number?
 
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:16 am

Sorry for the duplicate post, computer problems

[Edited 2005-05-03 04:19:20]
 
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:34 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
There's no other carrier besides DL holding authority on ATL-CUN right now? I find that hard to believe.

Well Aeromexico flies it... but youre probably thinking of other US airlines

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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:35 am

USA3000 is a scheduled airline but the services they operate to CUN are charter operations on behalf of Apple Vacations. Do these charter operations still count towards the airline number?

USA3000 has some scheduled flights to CUN, and some public charter flights to CUN. The scheduled flights count towards the two-carrier limit. The public charters (from places like NYC and DTW) don't.

Off the top of my head, U5 holds CUN authority counting toward the two-carrier limit at PHL, PIT, WAS, CMH, CVG, but there might be one or two I'm forgetting.
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RE: Airtran Applies For ATL/TPA/MCO-CUN

Tue May 03, 2005 11:42 am

All the flights that USA3000 runs to CUN are done in conjunction with Apple Vacations who owns them and other wise there would be no flights. They do sell some of the seats via the USA3000 web site as a way to make certain the flights go out full.
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