nosedive
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Japan To Develop RJ

Tue May 03, 2005 1:05 pm

Japan tries to get aerospace industry off the ground- The Japan Times

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The 50 billion yen project, shouldered equally by MHI and NEDO, aims to develop a 30- to 50-seat regional jet, a class of aircraft that faces relatively small competition in the world market.

I have a feeling it may become like....

Quote:
The YS-11, the 60- to 64-seat turboprop developed under a joint government-private sector project, is the only aircraft that made it to commercial production. Development began in 1959 with a budget of 5.7 billion yen.

Commercial production started in 1962, but it was terminated a little more than a decade later after 182 were built. The money-losing enterprise was not able to secure a market large enough to support itself.

But still, best of luck to the MJ!
 
roseflyer
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RE: Japan To Develop RJ

Tue May 03, 2005 1:13 pm

Quoting Nosedive (Thread starter):
a 30- to 50-seat regional jet, a class of aircraft that faces relatively small competition in the world market.

I thoroughly disagree with this statement. The ERJ series in particular fill this gap almost perfectly while the CRJ fills the upper half. The love affair with RJs at least in the US has reached its peak for the most part. There aren't many RJs being ordered any more. There is a lot of competition now, and both Bombardier and Embraer are focusing on larger planes since that is where the market is right now. There is no room right now with all the 50 seat RJs plus the super efficient props available now.

The only hope I believe that this plane will have is if it can finally combine RJ comfort and speed with turboprop efficiency. With the demanding schedules and high number of cycles, the CRJs and ERJs will begin to need replacements eventually, so that could set off a next generation RJ market, but that is in the future. This has to be an unbelievably good plane in order for it to sell. Even though regional aircraft have high turnaround and shorter life spans, for an airline to go for a new manufacturer, then the planes must be good. The Japanese are known for producing cheap yet good and reliable cars. If they can do to the aviation industry, what they did to cars, there is a chance. Who would have ever thought fifteen years ago that a Brazilian company would be leading the way in the 30 to 100 seat market?
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nosedive
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RE: Japan To Develop RJ

Tue May 03, 2005 2:11 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
Quoting Nosedive (Thread starter):a 30- to 50-seat regional jet, a class of aircraft that faces relatively small competition in the world market.


I thoroughly disagree with this statement

You and me both.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
The only hope I believe that this plane will have is if it can finally combine RJ comfort and speed with turboprop efficiency.



Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
The Japanese are known for producing cheap yet good and reliable cars. If they can do to the aviation industry, what they did to cars, there is a chance.

The only way I can see this happening is via composite material, but will that lower the CASM enough to make the MJ attractive to regionals?
 
Planesmart
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RE: Japan To Develop RJ

Tue May 03, 2005 2:32 pm

Expect a joint venture between B, Japanese and Brazilian or Canadian risk sharing partners on a range of jets, that may even include the 737 replacement. There may be 2 or even 3 production lines, with possibly none in the USA.
 
Jet-lagged
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RE: Japan To Develop RJ

Tue May 03, 2005 4:11 pm

This is interesting. But I think China will beat them to it.
 
GQfluffy
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RE: Japan To Develop RJ

Tue May 03, 2005 4:15 pm

You assume countries will buy a/c from China.

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