JOYA380B747
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How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 2:36 pm

NW is there with daily flights to BOM and is about to introduce new services to BLR....I suppose. DL is there too but UA is not even in the vicinity. Why is it so, for the largest US international airline?? There used to be flights from DEL operated by UA in the past. With steady increase in the no of PAX between US-IND, UA needs to restart flights to India once again.
These route options are my choices:-
DEL-NRT-LAX
DEL-LHR-IAD
DEL-LHR-ORD
BOM-HKG-SFO
Whats your opinion on this thread??  scratchchin 
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FA4UA
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 3:00 pm

YES!!! Why don't we serve India again!?! It kills me that we never started that nonstop they were talking about back in 2001 (ORD-DEL)! Now CO has announced EWR-DEL, but where is UA? Isn't America the number one location for Indian Ex-pats? Additionally our economies become more intertwined everyday!

I could imagine UA corporate saying that our resources are better used on more profitable routes presently and that with our code share agreement with SQ and LH, we actually do have plenty of service to the sub-continent from the East Coast and the West Coast.

Here's hoping for someday! There's always rumors floating around both inside UA and outside about starting service there again. Just recently I heard from friends at LHR about LHR-BOM service starting. But they are just rumors.

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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 3:34 pm

Quoting FA4UA (Reply 1):
It kills me that we never started that nonstop they were talking about back in 2001 (ORD-DEL)!

It wasn't just talked about. The flight was announced and put up for sale.

Quoting FA4UA (Reply 1):
Isn't America the number one location for Indian Ex-pats?

Maybe in total numbers, I am not sure, but London and Toronto have the largest Indian ex-pat communities as a whole, IIRC.
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 11:02 pm

UA was serving India w/ the "round the world flt" that they resurrected from Pan Am..flt 1 JFK/LHR/DEL/HKG/LAX...flt2 JFK/LAX/HKG/DEL/LHR...I think they cut the flt after 9/11...I'm sure they must still have authority that they inherited from PA...
 
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 11:39 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Maybe in total numbers, I am not sure, but London and Toronto have the largest Indian ex-pat communities as a whole, IIRC

Are you sure? OK, with the suburbs this might be true, but afaik there are places in Africa with a larger population.. OK, it epends on the definition of expats: UK and US Indians have migrated more recently than "Afrcan Indians"
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 11:42 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
I am not sure, but London and Toronto have the largest Indian ex-pat communities as a whole, IIRC.

Nowhere near Singapore, Mauritius or Dubai.
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 11:49 pm

UA and SQ do not codeshare. They are Star partners, but do not have a codeshare together.
 
LHRCS
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Fri May 06, 2005 11:50 pm

Hiya FA4UA,

I,v heard that one about us going back to India via LHR. At the moment that's all it seems to be just a rumor, but I believe we are going to be code sharing with JET Airways when they start flying LHR - BOM later this month.

Now seeing as the UK and India have doubled their air services agreement to 84 flights a week and the USA / India have an open skies agreement in place now. It can only be a matter of time till we do go back. Hopefully we will get some of the action through LHR.

Yep I can hear the cabin baggage arguments already.
 
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Sat May 07, 2005 9:37 am

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 5):
Nowhere near Singapore, Mauritius or Dubai.

The communities in Singapore and Dubai are much more transient however- many go abroad for 3-5 year and work, make money and return to India. The communities in the UK, USA, and Canada rarely if ever move back to India.
 
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Sat May 07, 2005 9:58 am

Here is what I hear:
Since United and Lufthansa are partners, they have a gentlemens agreement. United is allowed to cover mostly Asia, while Lufthansa covers India for American pax. This way they have less competition, and can work together on these routes.
 
JOYA380B747
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Sun May 08, 2005 2:57 pm

So is JET really going into Aliiances with UA-LH??
If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
 
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Sun May 08, 2005 3:59 pm

The US-India routes that have been considered recently at UA are ORD-DEL and SFO-BLR.
 
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Mon May 09, 2005 3:36 pm

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 9):
Since United and Lufthansa are partners, they have a gentlemens agreement. United is allowed to cover mostly Asia, while Lufthansa covers India for American pax. This way they have less competition, and can work together on these routes.

If this is true, it's truly sad for the average commuter! LH & UA need to wake up and realize that other airlines (that are expanding) will get all the traffic, while LH/UA will loose gaining any of the growth in the market. Stupid! Stupid!! Stupid!!!

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 11):
The US-India routes that have been considered recently at UA are ORD-DEL and SFO-BLR.

SFO-BLR non-stop would be my dream route  cloudnine 
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mrniji
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Mon May 09, 2005 3:41 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 12):
Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 9):
Since United and Lufthansa are partners, they have a gentlemens agreement. United is allowed to cover mostly Asia, while Lufthansa covers India for American pax. This way they have less competition, and can work together on these routes.

If this is true, it's truly sad for the average commuter! LH & UA need to wake up and realize that other airlines (that are expanding) will get all the traffic, while LH/UA will loose gaining any of the growth in the market. Stupid! Stupid!! Stupid!!!

As LH's presense in Asia is big enuff, i don't believe this to be true. UA won't be that stupid to surrender the potential to LH, regardless of their partnership (or they are that stupid, seeing that they are almost bancrupt  Yeah sure )
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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Mon May 09, 2005 4:16 pm

UA does not have an aircraft that could do SFO-BLR nonstop. Great Circle route is 8717 miles. However, ORD-DEL is doable at 7414 miles, with a routing NE over Greenland, proceeding over 85N and then straight down over Siberia and Nepal into India. Flight would have to be done with the -400, because it would be just outside the ETOPS180 range...just. Its real close. If UA wanted to do DEL from SFO, they could probably make it, but BLR is just too far south.

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RE: How About UA Restarting Flights To India?

Mon May 09, 2005 5:44 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 12):
SFO-BLR non-stop would be my dream route

It's a VERY long way! wouldn't it make sense to offer ORD-DEL or or ORD-SFO, perhaps operating with the same flight number and a change of aircraft at ORD. This would provide feed some other parts of the US as well.

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