karan69
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Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 2:37 am

They say end of the year, but from where will they get the aircrafts and which one--744/345/346

http://us.rediff.com/money/2005/may/09sahara.htm
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 2:56 am

Maybe this will get UA to start that ORD-DEL n/s they were talking about in 2001 (and selling tickets for  Wink).
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 3:22 am

Rono Datta was running UA when UA wanted to start this route  
I don't think he burned any bridges when leaving UA.

[Edited 2005-05-09 20:35:42]
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:30 am

Wasn't Rono Dutta one of the UA executives that laid the groundwork for UA's current disaster?  stirthepot   duck 
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:39 am

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 1):
Maybe this will get UA to start that ORD-DEL n/s they were talking about in 2001

We will have to let the brains at UAL Management make that choice!

 Yeah sure

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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:41 am

346 service to ORD is unlikely due to physical issues at ORD. Once for IB was OK, but regular service is unlikely at this point.
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:44 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):

Can ORD not handle 346?
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:48 am

I also thought that ORD wasn't able to handle the A346 on a daily basis becuase of the issues they had when IB has flown it there, but apparently LH is certified to handle the aircraft there without restrictions. Mabye it's just that IB staff just hasn't had the necessary training to handle the A346?
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:50 am

No- the length of the 346 means that taxiing becomes a significant issue on several parts of the field. As I alluded to in my last post, IB had a equipment sub for their customary 343 once in about September or last year, and although that went reasonably well (although it had to depart from T-5), day-in, day-out operations are not realistic at this point.
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 5:51 am

I could see Air Sahara ordering 772LRs for this route.
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 7:35 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 9):
I could see Air Sahara ordering 772LRs for this route.

But they would grab something on the lines of the A345, if they have any intention of starting it by the end of this year
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 7:38 pm

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 9):
I could see Air Sahara ordering 772LRs for this route.

I think a 3/4 engine airplane is necessary for the route simply because of engine out performance requirements over a route that includes the Himalaya mountains.
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 7:43 pm

Quoting N79969 (Reply 11):
I think a 3/4 engine airplane is necessary for the route simply because of engine out performance requirements over a route that includes the Himalaya mountains.

They might be able to bypass the Himalayas via PAK airspace
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 8:47 pm

Wheres Subroto roy.
Maybe a public appearence is over due.Wheres VT-HSS,Is it in Del.

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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 9:24 pm

the article nowhere mentions that they'll be using A346?
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Tue May 10, 2005 11:16 pm

I dont see sahara going any place but its one a one way trip to going broke. All those 14 pilots who left to join AIX did so for a reason. The company as any pilot will tell you is a complete mess even big boss roy has done the dissapearing act rumored to be suffering from A cut I D epre S sion some say hes in coma in bombay. His press release in the economic times speaking of stress work load and reversible disorders is all crap hes in trouble and he knows it and so do his pilots. The exodus is going to increase and with AIX getting 4 more ac in jan 06 and offering the pilots bom/del base sahara is going to pack up this year for sure.
 
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Wed May 11, 2005 12:34 am

Isn't Air Sahara a CRJ operator? Where are they getting the money to acquire a 744/777/345/346, and operate a very long route against possible competition from much bigger, more established airlines?

I really can't visualize Air Sahara, of all airlines, being the first to fly ORD-DEL nonstop... More likely AI, UA, AA...

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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Wed May 11, 2005 1:17 am

"Wasn't Rono Dutta one of the UA executives that laid the groundwork for UA's current disaster?"

Pretty much. Rono Dutta and James Goodwin's ideas led to the horrible situation that UA is going through now. And that would be true even without the terrorist attacks in 2001.
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RE: Air Sahara To Fly DEL-ORD Non-stop

Wed May 11, 2005 2:18 am

If this is true, isn't Sahara biting off more than they can chew with this ultra-long haul flight?

I mean, ultra-long haul isn't cut out for even many major, legacy airlines and is currently limited to a few carriers, none of which is a startup like Sahara.
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