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Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 9:42 am

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SEATTLE, May 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) and Japan Airlines (JAL) today completed contracts for 30 Boeing 787 Dreamliners and 30 Next-Generation 737-800 passenger airplanes, agreements worth $5.3 billion at list prices. JAL also has options for 20 more 787s and 10 more 737s.
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Japan Airlines sees the 787 Dreamliner as its next generation mid-sized twin aisle airplane, replacing Boeing 767s and Airbus A300-600s. The 737s will replace and expand JAL's single-aisle fleet. JAL announced it had selected the 787 last December and the 737 in February.

"This is a very special day for Boeing and Japan Airlines, two great companies that are working together to build the future and who share a solid understanding of the aviation market," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes Vice President for Sales Larry Dickenson. "The 787 will provide JAL the best in efficiency, economics, and reliability for medium-to-long-range operations, and the 737 provides the lowest operating costs with the best reliability in its class."

JAL is one of 20 airlines that have announced orders and commitments for 255 Dreamliners. Completing the JAL agreement brings to 112 the number of 787s under firm contract. The 787 will be the key airplane on several of JAL's domestic and international routes. The 787 will "provide outstanding flexibility in route planning and a wonderful flying experience for passengers," according to Japan Airlines.

The airline selected the 737 because of its confidence in the airplane's technology, flexibility, reliability, and economic and environmental performance.

The 787 family includes three airplanes seating 200 to 300 passengers that fly between 3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles (6,500 to 16,000 kilometers). The 787 will use 20 percent less fuel than today's comparable airplanes and will offer passengers a new interior environment with higher humidity levels, wider seats and aisles, larger windows, and other conveniences.

Boeing launched the 787 in April 2004. Production will begin in 2006. First flight is expected in 2007 with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.

The Next-Generation 737 features the newest technology in its class and is the category leader in reliability and operating costs. The 737-800 generates more revenue than the A320 by carrying up to 12 more passengers and approximately one-half ton more cargo. Its industry-leading reliability rate, fuel efficient performance, and quick turn-around time make it ideal for airlines around the world.
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 9:47 am

Good to see these orders finally firmed. Interesting to see the 737 order is for the 737-800. No mention of the 737-900X as I thought that the 739 was mentioned when JAL announced the order.

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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 9:48 am

DING DING DING

Round up another one for the Chicago boys! Big grin

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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 9:49 am

And another order goes to Boeing, somehow they seem unstoppable. Anyway, congrats to both Boeing and Japan Airlines. Any pictures yet??

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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 9:53 am

PIctures? Sure!  bigthumbsup 



It's now up on Boeing's WWW site:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q2/nr_050509g.html

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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 9:56 am

Quoting PANAM_DC10 (Reply 1):
No mention of the 737-900X as I thought that the 739 was mentioned when JAL announced the order.

I dunno... that's one long-ass 737-800 in that picture!

Man I love the 787 wing/engine combo!
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 10:00 am

The new JAL livery really looks great on those aircraft. Really does justice to the 787... It really is a beauty. Congratulations JAL and Boeing!
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 10:04 am

Awesome pictures  Wow! , thanks for posting them SNATH. Can't wait to see it in a few years time.

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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 11:09 am

What's up with the Rising Sun on one wing?
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 11:36 am

No mention of the 787 breakdown? 783 vs 788?
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 11:56 am

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 8):

I noticed that also and wasn't sure if I have ever seen those on their commercial aircraft before, but just on Japanese zeros. Perhaps it symbolizes that the wings for the 787 are a product of Japan?

I think it's pretty cool.  cool 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 11:59 am

Can anyone confirm if the "Shark Tail" is history? Every pic seems a tad different.

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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:00 pm

Quoting Eatmybologna (Reply 10):
Perhaps it symbolizes that the wings for the 787 are a product of Japan?


Well, it's on the 737 as well.
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:21 pm

All Japanese registered planes have the sun on topside of the right wing topside and the underside of left wing. The plane registration is located vice versa (I believe).

Interesting to note that the 737 order only says 738. The 738 is a good replacement for the MD80s & MD90s but the 73G is better suited to replace the small fleet of MD-87s. Perhaps there's a stipulation in the contract that allows switching to other variants such as the yet to be launched 739X.

No mention of delivery dates for either type. I'd assume the 738s will not come into JL's fleet no earlier than April 2006. (Fiscal Year 2006 starts on April 1, 2006). Unless JL put down deposits, their 787 deliveries will start at the earliest 2009.
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:28 pm

If you want an idea of how the 787 has changed before and after Boeing finalized the exterior, here's a great comparison-

JAL commits to 7E7 in December 2004


JAL orderd 787 in May 2005
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:41 pm

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 14):
JAL commits to 7E7 in December 2004


JAL orderd 787 in May 2005

I don't see the Rising Sun on the original 7E7 order pictures. I guess the Boeing CGI guys didn't know about it.

[Edited 2005-05-10 05:42:03]
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:42 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 2):
Is that 99 firm now, or 101?

The answer is in the first post, 112.

Quoting USAF336TFS (Thread starter):
Completing the JAL agreement brings to 112 the number of 787s under firm contract.
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:49 pm

Obvious question.... what engine type?
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 12:56 pm

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 15):
I don't see the Rising Sun on the original 7E7 order pictures. I guess the Boeing CGI guys didn't know about it.

Can I ask what Rising Sun you are referring to? If you are talking about the tail, it is there. It's just that the tail on the old picture of the 787 is different from the tail on the new one. If you are talking about the wings, the angle of the aircraft in the original Dec 2004 picture wouldn't show it.

[Edited 2005-05-10 05:57:47]
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 2:56 pm

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5):
I dunno... that's one long-ass 737-800 in that picture!

Well, Boeing says they are 738s. Still, would love to see the 739X, particularly if it ends up having 738 range
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 3:27 pm

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 18):
If you are talking about the wings, the angle of the aircraft in the original Dec 2004 picture wouldn't show it.

I think you ought to be able to see a hint of red, as you can see enough of the top white surface and the sun is relatively close to the front edge of the wing.
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 4:41 pm

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 20):
I think you ought to be able to see a hint of red, as you can see enough of the top white surface and the sun is relatively close to the front edge of the wing.

See Carpethead's reply:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 13):
All Japanese registered planes have the sun on topside of the right wing topside and the underside of left wing.



The aircraft in the picture is coming toward us, climbing, and banking to the right. The wing that is dipping on the left side of the picture is the right-side wing and the one rising on the right side of the picture is the left-side wing. Again, the angle doesn't allow us to see the rising sun on top of the right-side wing.
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737 Agr

Tue May 10, 2005 5:08 pm

God I wish the 787 still looked like the concept. The first image in this thread is pretty ugly by comparison.  Sad
 
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RE: Boeing And Japan Airlines Complete 787 And 737

Tue May 10, 2005 8:07 pm

I think it looks good in the latest JAL livery. This confirms that JAL will buy the 787's, they were interested in it already a while ago not long after launch customer ANA launched it one year ago.
About JAL and Boeing, now that JAL has ordered 787's and 737-800's, I wonder if they will help Boeing launch the 747 Advanced which Boeing still has on the drawing board. I don't see JAL going for the A380. If they still need a large aircraft in that size, they would rather go for the 747 ADV instead of the A380 don't you think? If no airline decides to order the 747 ADV now, Boeing will shut down the 747 production line next year.

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