COAMiG29
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Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 11:58 am

AAL191 and DAL191 were both triholers that crashed i believe both on takeoff. the planes are somewhat similar in having three engines, and they both had the same flight number. im not saying there is a connection but i was wondering if anyone else noticed this? also, has there ever been a similar thing with crashes and flight numbers? please correct me if anything i have said thus far is incorrect

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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 12:05 pm

Quoting COAMiG29 (Thread starter):
also, has there ever been a similar thing with crashes and flight numbers? please correct me if anything i have said thus far is incorrect

I don't know about flight numbers. But the AF Concorde that crashed (F-BTSC) was the very same a/c that they used in the fliming of "Airport '79".

Kinda spooky, making a movie about a Concorde disaster and then the very same a/c crashes some 20 years later.
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 12:09 pm

never knew that thx for the info sounds interesting
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 12:12 pm

I just thougt I'd write that little piece of trivia since it's sort of on your topic and it's a boring Wednesday night. There are a few scenes in the movie where you can clearly see the reg. too.
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 12:28 pm

AA191 crashed on takeoff at ORD.
DL191 crashed on landing due to windshear in DFW.
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 12:42 pm

Both flights (DL 191 and AA 191) were destined for LAX.

Although there are a few similarities, the probable causes of these accidents are quite different: AA 191 was the result of mechanical failure / bad maintenance procedures and the Delta crash was due to weather and pilot error.
 
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 12:44 pm

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 4):
DL191 crashed on landing due to windshear in DFW.



Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 5):
Both flights (DL 191 and AA 191) were destined for LAX.

Why would it be landing at DFW if it was destined to LAX? You probably meant DL was from LAX, AA was to LAX?

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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 1:51 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 1):
Kinda spooky, making a movie about a Concorde disaster and then the very same a/c crashes some 20 years later.

Good catch; sad story.  Sad There's some rather hard coincidence there, based on Hollywood tragedy, and the tragedy with the loss of the *same* craft in revenue service... especially based on the quite comfortable safety record that the Concorde enjoyed prior.

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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 1:54 pm

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 6):
Why would it be landing at DFW if it was destined to LAX? You probably meant DL was from LAX, AA was to LAX?

What's wrong with a plane landing at DFW on its way to LAX?
Based on the flight number both planes were westbound.
 
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 2:03 pm

DL 191 was routed FLL-DFW-LAX. It was to continue to Los Angeles after leaving DFW.

One of the saddest ironies I have read about AA 191 was in the book "Terror In The Skies" by David Grayson. One of the victims of the Chicago crash lost both of his parents 17 years earlier on a flight that crashed on take-off from Idlewild airport (now JFK). The airline - American. The destination of both flights - LAX.
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Thu May 12, 2005 2:13 pm

Since I collect aircraft models, as I'm sure many of us here do, I noticed an eBay auction (which has ended now) for 23 models from various airlines:

Aircraft models auction link


In the description, the condition of all 23 models is described:
"- Good"
"- American Airlines (Missing One Jet Engine)"


I thought, wouldn't it be odd if it was an AA DC-10 with #1 missing...

Sure enough it is an AA DC-10 and it is shown in two pictures, I checked them carefully, and #1 is missing from the wing!

This made the hair stand on my neck

I have read the accident report from AA 191, it is chilling.



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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Fri May 13, 2005 1:54 am

Crashes involving the same flight number are to be expected, mathematically speaking, since airlines only use a small range of flight numbers.

One thing I think that might well qualify as "eerie" is something that I read about the AA191 crash some years ago. One of those killed was an author (and her name escapes me), and in one of her books, she talked about her fear of flying. As you might expect, the page number was "191"

Don't know if that's actually true or not, just something I read years ago...
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RE: Something Erie That I Noticed

Fri May 13, 2005 6:31 am

Speaking of the Airport series, the 707 in the original film also crashed some 20 years later...


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