crewrest
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New Virgin Service To HKG

Thu May 12, 2005 3:20 pm

Has anyone heard a rumour of Virgin starting a dedicated LHR-HKG-LHR service to add to the current continuing service to SYD?

Also: When's DXB starting. Anyone? Anyone?
 
Ozair
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Thu May 12, 2005 3:36 pm

Quoting Crewrest (Thread starter):
Has anyone heard a rumour of Virgin starting a dedicated LHR-HKG-LHR service

The loads are certainly good enough for another flight and it would free up more seats for the SYD-LHR route, not just SYD-HKG, but maybe this is one they wait to use the A380 on. 2009 might be a bit far away though and a bit more frequency never hurt anyone.
 
N754PR
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Thu May 12, 2005 10:43 pm

I heard two things:

1) They are VERY short of aircraft

2) Loads on the Sydney flights are terrible
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wunala
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Thu May 12, 2005 11:41 pm

Yes, i have heard that, as they need to free up space on the LHRHKG route to enable thru pax from SYD. LHRHKG and vv was doing well with good loads, and didn't need to have SYD tagged on. THe demand is SYDLHR not SYDHKG.

Good luck to them. When they join Oneworld I look forward to earning points on them. LOL.
 
gigneil
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Thu May 12, 2005 11:54 pm

Quoting N754PR (Reply 2):
2) Loads on the Sydney flights are terrible

Loads on the SYD flight are terrible because LHR-HKG is taking all the seats.

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Leezyjet
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Fri May 13, 2005 1:26 am

Quoting N754PR (Reply 2):
2) Loads on the Sydney flights are terrible

They are not doing to bad considering it is still a new route and it's low season on that route too.

Loads between HKG-SYD are ok, which could suggest that people seem to be having a stopover in HKG, although granted LHR-SYD direct loads could be better.

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crewrest
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Fri May 13, 2005 5:06 am

Thanks for input guys

I thought VS got into the route for China-Oz seats, one of the world few growing markets.

How come Virgin can't fill HKG-SYD when CX/QF have (I assume) mulitple flights? Low season? Too new a player?
 
Luv767s
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Fri May 13, 2005 7:09 am

Quoting Crewrest (Reply 6):
Too new a player?

Probably the case, but when I was in Hong Kong this past winter, there were all kinds of ads throughout the subways and such promoting the SYD flights...so they are trying.
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bullpitt
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Fri May 13, 2005 7:19 am

Hi All

I want to do AMS-HKG-AKL in late June can does anybody here know what loads are like?

Also interested in HKG-TLV mid July.

Would be travelling on ZED tkts.
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HB-IWC
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RE: New Virgin Service To HKG

Fri May 13, 2005 1:16 pm

As discussed here before, it was a mistake on Virgin's part to tag the new SYD flights to the already popular LHR-HKG sector, which was a line that could easily sustain itself. The LHR-HKG-LHR sectors now have to support the additional LHR-SYD-LHR traffic, and with a large number of pax still flying the LHR-HKG-LHR sectors, the airline is essentially forced into heavily marketing the HKG-SYD-HKG market.

Virgin would have done better by initiating a totally new flight, including the transit point, which could have been a variety of places, including BKK, KUL and SIN, and start from scratch with 2 new stations. As it is right now, the SYD extensions are threatening the performance of the successful HKG route.

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