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Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Sat May 14, 2005 8:32 am

Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Qantas recently announced an additional 11 domestic flights for Western Australia.

From July, Qantas will add five extra Perth/Brisbane flights, three additional Perth/Melbourne flights, a third Perth/Cairns service and a second seasonal Broome/Sydney service.

A second seasonal Perth/Kununurra service operated by QantasLink will be added starting May 18.
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 3:44 am

Qantas continues to miss the mark on where to expand. I was at LAX on Friday and saw 4 747's all parked together. And yet Qantas has no flights to or from SFO having abandoned the airport years ago. The result is high United fares and load factors and no competition to "down under". United thanks you Qantas for your stupidity in thinking that we San Francisco Bay Area people will first fly to LAX on another airline to take your airline........
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting Dbba (Reply 1):
Qantas continues to miss the mark on where to expand.

WTF!!!

1. Somehow I dont think any of these new flights involve 744's.

2. QF makes enough money flying to the US by hubbing everyone through LAX. If you want to go to SFO then hop on AA from LAX.

3. Why wouldn't Qantas expand it's domestic capacity on profitable sectors. Your comments kind of miss the mark as well.
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 7:23 am

Doesn't QANTAS get it's domestic feed from AA at LAX, Whereas UA feeds it's own Australian service through San Francisco?
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 8:12 am

Quoting Dbba (Reply 1):
And yet Qantas has no flights to or from SFO having abandoned the airport years ago. The result is high United fares and load factors and no competition to "down under".

If QF thought SFO was such a money-maker, wouldn't they fly there? Perhaps their revenue management and financial analysis teams have determined that it is more cost effective and network efficient to just deposit all US-bound customers at LAX with AA, and maybe QF feels it can still capture an acceptable level of SFO-Australia traffic with connections over LAX.

Quoting PapaNovember (Reply 3):
Doesn't QANTAS get it's domestic feed from AA at LAX, Whereas UA feeds it's own Australian service through San Francisco?

Correct. QF hubs at LAX and distributes all of there thousands of weekly Australia-US customers at LAX T4 for onward flights to just about every major US business center nonstop on AA, plus some smaller feed to the Pacific Northwest and YVR on AS.
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 11:55 am

It's good to see PER getting more domestic flights. I lived there for 8 years and it is a fantastic city, even if it is a bit isolated. I would hope that QF schedules the flights in order to increase the international flights also.
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 12:04 pm

Quoting PapaNovember (Reply 3):
Doesn't QANTAS get it's domestic feed from AA at LAX, Whereas UA feeds it's own Australian service through San Francisco?

And New York/JFK International Airport!


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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 2:31 pm

Quoting Commavia (Reply 4):
If QF thought SFO was such a money-maker, wouldn't they fly there?

NZ finds AKL-SFO a money maker, so SYD-SFO could also be a money maker for QF
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 2:38 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 7):
NZ finds AKL-SFO a money maker

NZ also feeds people onto UA from SFO as part of Star.

QF would largely be O&D and they obviously don't feel there's enough there.

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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 3:23 pm

Quoting Sllevin (Reply 8):
QF would largely be O&D and they obviously don't feel there's enough there.

QF could easily feed passengers onto other Oneworld members
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 4:54 pm

777ER:

Really? Who?

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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 4:57 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
QF could easily feed passengers onto other Oneworld members

It's called American Airlines in LAX!!!!!!
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Mon May 16, 2005 11:51 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
QF could easily feed passengers onto other Oneworld members

It's easier and more cost-effective to concentrate the feed through LAX. There's enough O&D (and some connection potential as well) at JFK to justify having their own metal go there, too.

The fact that both NZ and UA fly profitability into SFO is actually a very good reason for QF to avoid SFO...why get into a shooting war with the two Star carriers when you've already got all the feed you need at LAX?

If QF wants to expand service to North America, they have plenty of other opportunities (fly to YVR, or have their own metal go on to ORD, for example.)

Quoting Dbba (Reply 1):
Qantas continues to miss the mark on where to expand.

It isn't an "either-or" choice for QF...they can choose to expand domestically and look for new international opportunities at the same time.
 
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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Tue May 17, 2005 12:19 am

Dbba: We have to speak outside the fact that we would die to see Qantas roll up at SFO. It would look great to us, but not for thier numbers. The only QF we will ever see is that silver MD80 headed down to LAX. Maybe one day there will be the demand. The only chance I ever see QF coming back to SFO is if Singapore is allowed to fly OZ-USA routes. Possibly then QF may want to start a fight, but till then we get to see all the Qantas's 747's we want, when our planes land at LAX.

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RE: Qantas Announces Western Australia Expansion

Tue May 17, 2005 12:24 am

A shame no new long-haul Perth routes!  Sad

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