ArgInMIA
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How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Mon May 16, 2005 3:32 pm

I can't get the actual figure.. How many flights are there between EZE and SCL? Some days are busier.. Can anybody help me with this?

[Edited 2005-05-16 08:35:44]
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Mon May 16, 2005 7:05 pm

LAN operates up to nine daily flights, Aerolineas Argentinas up to five daily flights. In addition, Air France has one daily flight, Air Canada operates four times weekly, Avianca three times weekly.
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Mon May 16, 2005 8:38 pm

Do AC, AV and AF have fifth freedom rights?
 
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Mon May 16, 2005 10:00 pm

Quoting Celticmanx (Reply 2):
Do AC, AV and AF have fifth freedom rights?

I think yes
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Mon May 16, 2005 10:30 pm

AC definitely has 5th freedom rights---in fact when you search for best fares from EZE-SCL AC often comes up as best option. They use 763s on the route.
 
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 3:47 am

LH is daily, as is AF, but AC is actually only a total of 7x weekly between the two directions. (I believe 5x SCL-EZE and 2x EZE-SCL, although that may be backward). All 3 have freedom rights, but I'm not sure about AV.
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 3:54 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
LH is daily

LH FRA-EZE/SCL is now routed via GRU.

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:01 am

Thank you, good catch. I knew that, really.
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:10 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
Thank you, good catch. I knew that, really.

No problem  Wink
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:22 am

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 6):
LH FRA-EZE/SCL is now routed via GRU.

aren´t those flights, two separeted things???

one FRA-GRU-SCL and one FRA-GRU-EZE???
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:29 am

Quoting Erikwilliam (Reply 9):
aren´t those flights, two separeted things???

one FRA-GRU-SCL and one FRA-GRU-EZE???

Yes they are. GRU-EZE is operated with the 744 and GRU-SCL with the 346.

BTW, does anyone know if RG still has the rights to operate EZE-SCL?

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:36 am

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 10):

BTW, does anyone know if RG still has the rights to operate EZE-SCL?

They probably do, but they no longer fly the route.
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 5:24 am

Aerolíneas Argentinas operates 5x daily EZE-SCL...

AR 1280 EZE 0800Z SCL 0910Z
AR 1282 EZE 0900Z SCL 1015Z
AR 1286 EZE 1510Z SCL 1625Z
AR 1288 EZE 1730Z SCL 1845Z
AR 1290 EZE 1945Z SCL 2100Z

...And 5x daily SCL-EZE...

AR 1291 SCL 0730Z EZE 1025Z
AR 1281 SCL 0955Z EZE 1250Z
AR 1283 SCL 1055Z EZE 1350Z
AR 1287 SCL 1705Z EZE 2000Z
AR 1289 SCL 1925Z EZE 2220Z

...Meanwhile, LAN flies from SCL to EZE 9x daily (somedays it can go up to 10x daily)...

LA 431 SCL 1030Z EZE 1325Z
LA 443 SCL 1520Z EZE 1815Z
LA 445 SCL 1400Z EZE 1655Z
LA 451 SCL 1605Z EZE 1900Z
LA 481 SCL 1930Z EZE 2225Z
LA 491 SCL 2130Z EZE 0020Z
LA 601 SCL 0745Z EZE 1040Z
LA 621 SCL 0900Z EZE 1155Z
LA 6441 SCL 1140Z EZE 1435Z

...And also 9x daily from EZE to SCL...(same as SCL-EZE: somedays up to 10x daily)...

LA 400 EZE 0700Z SCL 0815Z
LA 410 EZE 0820Z SCL 0935Z
LA 440 EZE 1255Z SCL 1410Z
LA 450 EZE 1330Z SCL 1445Z
LA 460 EZE 1415Z SCL 1430Z
LA 470 EZE 2000Z SCL 2115Z
LA 480 EZE 2145Z SCL 2300Z
LA 600 EZE 1805Z SCL 1920Z
LA 622 EZE 1140Z SCL 1255Z

...Air Canada is 4x weekly...

AC 092 SCL 1130Z EZE 1430Z
AC 093 EZE 1655Z SCL 1820Z

...France is represented by Air France, with its 1x daily frequency.

AF 416 EZE 0910Z SCL 1020Z
AF 417 SCL 1315Z SCL 1605Z

As for Avianca, they are now operating EZE and SCL as two separate routes.

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 5:29 am

Marcos: tks for te details. Do you know which of the flights are operated by widebodies?

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 6:01 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11):
They probably do, but they no longer fly the route.

if not mistaken, they´ve flying this route in 01.
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 6:03 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 13):
Do you know which of the flights are operated by widebodies?

AR operates only narrowbodies. Mainly 735s and M88s.

Out of LA's 9 frequencies, about 4 or 5 are operated with widebodies: 763s and A340s.

AF flies 772s and AC 763s on that route.

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 6:52 am

Quoting Marambio (Reply 15):
Out of LA's 9 frequencies, about 4 or 5 are operated with widebodies: 763s and A340s

Hola marambio,

Are all of the other LA's flights operated with the A320?

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 6:57 am

Quoting Marambio (Reply 12):
As for Avianca, they are now operating EZE and SCL as two separate routes.

Not at all Marcos. AV keeps flying regularly between EZE and SCL.

AV095 goes BOG-SCL-EZE-BOG, and operates 4 times a week; 2 in 757 and 2 in 762.

AV099 does BOG-EZE-SCL-BOG, and operates the remaining 3 days; all in 762 service.

Hence AV has one daily flight to both airports to/from BOG. The airline flies SCL-EZE on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays. EZE-SCL is flown the other three days. Flights are opened for booking and appear in most reservation systems.



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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 7:19 am

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 17):
Not at all Marcos. AV keeps flying regularly between EZE and SCL.

I'm afraid I have got different information, Fede. Although sometimes inaccurate, Aeropuertos 2000's website usually shows correct information. AA2000 says:

AV 087 Bogotá > Buenos Aires / Ezeiza 06:10
AV 088 Buenos Aires / Ezeiza > Bogotá 08:00

I tried to confirm this at Avianca's webpage, but it says I have to call their Call Center. I also talked about this with Andrés (757MDE), and we couldn't decipher who was right and who wasn't.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 16):
Are all of the other LA's flights operated with the A320?

According to LA's website, it depends. Some are operated with A320s and some with A319s. However, sometimes one can spot a LA 732 at EZE.

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 7:37 am

Quoting Marambio (Reply 18):
I'm afraid I have got different information, Fede. Although sometimes inaccurate, Aeropuertos 2000's website usually shows correct information.

Strange. Both Amadeus [worldwide known and used as you know] and Avianca's official online schedules show the intineraries I posted above.



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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 7:47 am

so.. lets put in in clear.. i count 17 on the busiest day?
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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 7:55 am

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 19):
Strange. Both Amadeus [worldwide known and used as you know] and Avianca's official online schedules show the intineraries I posted above.

Yep, strange indeed. Nonetheless, in this case I tend to believe Amadeus and Avianca more than AA2000, no matter how accurate their website usually is. Besides, they have been flying the route via SCL for a long time now and there's no real reason for splitting it into two flights.

Quoting ArgInMIA (Reply 20):
so.. lets put in in clear.. i count 17 on the busiest day?

Well, let's see.

LA = 10 flights
AR = 5 flights
AF = 1 flight
AC = 1 flight
AV = 1 flight

So, all in all I count 18 flights on the busiest day.

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 7:56 am

Marcos, I doubled checked, and it's a bit clearer now. Flights AV87/88 apparently operate temporarily during the very slow off-season periods.

On June 1st and until August 30, the schedule goes back to normal, with the daily triangle routing I mentioned before.



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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 8:00 am

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 22):
Marcos, I doubled checked, and it's a bit clearer now. Flights AV87/88 apparently operate temporarily during the very slow off-season periods.

On June 1st and until August 30, the schedule goes back to normal, with the daily triangle routing I mentioned before.

Thanks Fede for that information. So, right now AV87/88 are operating, right?

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RE: How Many Flights Between EZE And SCL?

Tue May 17, 2005 8:04 am

Quoting Marambio (Reply 23):
So, right now AV87/88 are operating, right?

Yes, 15 days to go. It's even more understandable that these schedules are being applied given AV's critical situation of fleet shortage.



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