lazyshaun
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What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 8:44 pm

Hi,
i was wondering, with the 787 on its way, what will boeing call their next airliner? I know they have enough orders to keep them going for a while, but a few years down the line airlines will want something new. They have the 707, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787...the only possible way to finish the line is a 797, but then what? 878? 979 etc etc...
Airbus are ok for the time being, they can have A317, A316, etc, and can have all kinds of combinations, same with embraer and others.
So, Boeing will have to start another name series, surely?

Any ideas would be nice

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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 9:31 pm

I would think that the plane after the Boeing 797 would be the Boeing 808. But you are talking years from now. Or perhaps they will refer to aircraft as names rather than numbers in the future. For instance...the Boeing Dreamliner (787), or something like that.

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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 10:59 pm

Considering the line will look to have the following aircraft:

737
787
777
747ADV

That will pretty much cover the market, so derivatives will be key. The replacement for the 737 should be the 797...then just load it up with derivatives such as the -700/800, etc...and they should be good-to-go until it comes time to bring out a replacement for the 777 then 747 and so on.
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:05 pm

They may recycle.... after all they had used 717 before!!!
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:10 pm

Quote:
They may recycle.... after all they had used 717 before!!!

Would you elaborate please?
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:19 pm

Quoting ConcordeLoss (Reply 4):
Quote:
They may recycle.... after all they had used 717 before!!!

Would you elaborate please?

Here you go:

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevo...ustin_military/db/us/C135BOEI.html
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:20 pm

Quoting ConcordeLoss (Reply 4):
Would you elaborate please?

From..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_717

Boeing had apparently skipped the "717" model designation when the 720 (not as some claim, the 727) became the airliner which followed the 707. But "717" had, in fact, been used by the company to refer to the military version of the 707, which the U.S. Air Force redesignated the KC-135 Stratotanker. It had also been used to promote an early design of the 720 to airlines, before it was modifed to meet market demands as the eventual 720. This left "717" available until the MD-95 was rebranded.

There are others here that may elaborate further..

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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:45 pm

With the 787 being so much different from airliners of the past in regards to the composites and Boeing touting it as a revolutionary design, I am surprised they did not start the new number sequence of 808 with the Dreamliner. New technology, new sequence. It also would have fallen in line nicely with the announcement of the Chinese orders and their feelings for the number 8, just a Boeing played up on when they changed the name from 7E7 to 787.

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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:52 pm

Would you elaborate please?


Yes, the KC-135 holds the design number 717
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:54 pm

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 6):
This left "717" available until the MD-95 was rebranded.

I always thought the Boeing 795 would have been a perfect name for the ill-fated little chap. It would have indicated Boeing's ownership of the line while paying due respect to the plane's McD roots and it would have acknowledged that the plane didn't really 'fit' with the 7-7 series. Perfect. But nobody asked me.  Sad

As for worrying about what comes after 787 and 797, how do we know that Boeing will be around long enough to need anything after these lines? duck 
 
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:59 pm

i could see the 757 and 767 coming back as new airplanes. perhaps the true replacement for the 737NG will be a new, all composite version of the 757. that way, the 737 line could stay open, even while a new plane is in the works.
 
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Mon May 16, 2005 11:59 pm

I think Boeing has already said it's next big project is a replacement line for the venerable 737 family.
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Tue May 17, 2005 12:05 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
I think Boeing has already said it's next big project is a replacement line for the venerable 737 family.

yes, but when the day comes that they release the 737 replacement, all orders on boeing's most important line will cease. perhaps, if boeing went with a 757 that was flexible enough to get down into the 120 seat range, but also into the 190, 200 seat range, it could be the true replacement for the 737 even though it is called the 757. it would just take some creative marketing.

anyway, now that i think about it, it is an impossible situation, because WN wouldn't buy a 757 even if it was just a glorified 737, just on principle!
 
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Tue May 17, 2005 12:18 am

My guess......

797 = the 737NG replacement that incorporates 787 technology. This will be a totally new aircraft in the 130-190 seat single aisle category, it will therefore get a new model desingation.

747A = 747-900 - if the 747 Advanced does launch, it is basically a severe rework of the 747-400 with new technologies, engines, and other improvements, but not an entirely new aircraft (not unlike the 737NG taking the 737 Classic to the next level.) Thus, it will get a new designation in the 747 family....also, I think that the 747 designation has certain marketing value, worldwide, I would think that the 747 is still the most recognized airliner (could that change with the A380, time will tell.) Why the -900? I dont know, it just seems to be the new trend (ie, A388/A389, A358/A359, B788/B789) and Boeing will apply this new trend to the 747 family, in any case, the 749 will be the last subtype of the 747 to be produced.

Thus, under my scenario, no need to move on to the 800 series yet.
 
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Tue May 17, 2005 2:54 am

I believe the 797 will be next, followed by an 807 series. 807 because nearly all of Boeing's commercial aircraft have contained at least one 7 in their three number designation.
 
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Tue May 17, 2005 3:03 am

I think actual names, instead of numbers. They need something that will stand out, like the dreamliner. The classics all had real names, e.g. Concorde, Comets, etc.
Something that sounds fast and furious...

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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:35 am

After the 797 (here's a hint, the 797 will be commercial aviation's first VTOL aircraft). Designed for 120 in three class seating, it will require only 1200 feet to liftoff and can land within 500 feet.

After that, Boeing will close up shop and concede to Airbus. Boeing was never really cut out for commercial airplane manufacturing anyways.
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RE: What Will Boeing Do?

Tue May 17, 2005 4:51 am

Don't bet that the next designation will be 808. It's always been Boeing tradition that the number "7" is somehow incorporated in the model number. 707, B-52, B-29, and so on.
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