ramerinianair
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PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 12:58 pm

Any locals out there that can help me . . . I would greatly appreciate it!
I have a flight next tuesday out of PHL but I am no longer in PHL. I will be in NYC and I want to know the best way to get there. I saw Amtrak has a train for $50 but I would like to take GreyHound for only $15. They don't drop me off at the airport and the SEPTA web-site is being weird . . . maybe it is because I have no clue which way is up in PHL.
Thanks for your help,
Steven
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SonOfACaptain
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 1:08 pm

I do not now where the bus station is at, but there is a train that runs from the airport to downtown for about $5.00. I heard it was very convient.

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captaink
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 1:14 pm

I dont live out there either.. but I was there last two weeks.. There is a train that runs Downtown to Airport every half hour.... I think it is SEPTA...

Amtrak drops you off at the station right near downtown.. not very far at all.. But I think u need a resident PHL person or someone who used the system to give you more info..
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usair330
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 1:28 pm

The greyhound bus will leave you at 11th and Filbert.... At the front door of the Greyhound bus station walk to your right to the corner and enter the gallery.... You want to get on the R1 train which takes you to the airport.

At the corner you want to enter the doors on your left hand side of the street on the corner. They should have a big Septa sign on the doors.

Hope this helps

[Edited 2005-05-18 06:41:01]
 
bunga777
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 1:42 pm

If you don't want to do Greyhound, you could catch New Jersey Transit to Trenton, NJ and then take the R7 into town. I'm pretty sure you still have to transfer to the R1 from 30th Street Station to get to the airport.
 
hjulicher
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 2:24 pm

From new york, you can also take the chinatown bus which costs something like 8 dollars from NYC to PHL, once in Philly, either take a cab or take the septa rail line. Take the R1 to the airport. It's very convenient, and the train stops at each terminal. The amtrak goes through 30th street station, you can also pick up the R1 there too. The amtrack is the fastest variant, and the New Jersey Transit trains stop much too often to make it worth it. Don't know where the greyhound bus stops, but it shouldn't be too far from 30th street station.
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usair330
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 3:42 pm

The Greyhound stops VERY far from 30th street station LoL..... You can take the Amtrak to 30th st as well and catch the R1 but the way I put it by bus works as well.... A cab from The Greyhound station to the airport could be around $25 depending on I95 traffic.
 
cha747
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 4:33 pm

You've gotten a ton of good suggestions....but here are some key points:

1. A cab to the airport from any point in Center City Philadelphia [where the Chinatown buses (11th street between Arch & Cherry), Septa's Market East Station (11th and Market at the Gallery Mall), the Greyhound/Peter Pan bus station (11th and Filbert), and 30th Street Station (at 30th and JFK) are] to the airport is a $20 one way cab fare.

2. Do you drive? One way car rentals from NYC to PHL (as long as you're over 21) cost about $50-60. This way you could get from point to point for the same cost and probably in much less time than all the bus/train connections.

3. The opportunity cost of NJ Transit/Septa combo from NYC-Trenton-Center City-PHL over Amtrak NYC-Center City-PHL is about 2 hours.

4. Personally, I don't trust the Chinatown buses...I've seen them in pretty poor repair and crazy, aggressive bus drivers but hey, the price is right!

5. Does your airline fly out of NYC? Perhaps you can have the ticket re-issued if it is more economical that way.

6. Please, please, please don't hitchhike or hang around Center City late at night. Just about 24 hours ago there was a fatal shooting on the corner of 9th and Market (one block from my house, 2 blocks from the Greyhound station, Septa's Market East Station, and the Chinatown buses)

Good luck.
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TonyBurr
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RE: PHL Transportation

Wed May 18, 2005 8:32 pm

The best idea was the New Jersey Transit. You take it from Penn Station in NYC, change trains in Trenton ( you change to the SEPTA train which is right in front of the NJ Transist Train, they coordinate schedules) the SEPTA train stops in 30th St Penn station, where you change platforms for the airport train. It is very easy actually, and NJ Transit is alot less money then Amtrak, longer but costs less..
 
usflt1778
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 12:46 am

USAir330's directions were exact. If you take Greyhound/Peter Pan, the bus station is basically across the street from the Market East Rail Station in the Gallery mall, where you catch the Airport R1 train. No, the area isn't great (never been to a bus station that IS...), but you're fine just crossing the street to Market East.

I find the NJ Transit/Septa combo via Trenton to be grueling. So many stops...and Trenton station is no fun if NJT is late and you have to wait for the next Septa connection.
 
ramerinianair
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 1:00 am

Thanks guys.
I would drive but there is an insurance charge for all drivers under 25 and that would be me! This trip is already costing a lot more than I wanted so if I could do this as cheap as possible it would help. I am not able to change the departure/arrival cities except for JFK(LGA or EWR). I kind of like taking the train better but Amtrak is $50. I'll price out the NJ transit one and see what happens.
So, which one do you think is the best way to go?
Thanks Again . . . I knew I could count of you all for solid info!!!
-Steven
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PHLBOS
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 1:01 am

Quoting USAir330 (Reply 3):
The greyhound bus will leave you at 11th and Filbert.... At the front door of the Greyhound bus station walk to your right to the corner and enter the gallery.... You want to get on the R1 train which takes you to the airport.

Another thing to keep in mind should opt the Greyhound way,

What time are you planning to arrive in Philly? While the Market East Station is still open at night, the adjacent Gallery Mall (which many people go through to get to the station) closes at 7 PM. After that you must use the Market East Station entrances along 11th Street.
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ramerinianair
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 9:45 am

OK, for those of you whom are familiar with the system, please let me know if this would work?
Leaving NY Penn Station at 6AM - Arrive Trenton, NJ at 7:27AM on NJTransit
Leaving Trenton, NJ at 7:34AM - Arrive 30th Street Station at 8:27
Leave 30th Street Station at 8:34 - Arrive PHL E terminal at 8:53
DL529 leaves at 11:40AM
Also, How can I price out SEPTA's rides? How much is the Trenton to 30th street. I assume that the 30th street to PHL is a seperate fare of $5.50.
Thanks Again,
Steven
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haveric
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 10:24 am

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 12):
How can I price out SEPTA's rides? How much is the Trenton to 30th street. I assume that the 30th street to PHL is a seperate fare of $5.50.

This sounds good. Many people make the NJT to SEPTA connection and the trains are usually on the same (or nearby) tracks. So you shouldn't have a problem at Trenton.

You can purchase one fare from Trenton to PHL (I'm pretty sure of this) -- just make sure you buy it from someone who knows what they are doing.
 
usflt1778
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 2:13 pm

Trenton to Philadelphia 30th Street is $7 one way. Buy the combined ticket (NJT+Septa) at NY Penn Station as you won't have time to do it at Trenton. Also, if the NJT train is late, Septa will not wait and you'll have to take the next departure at 8am.

At 30th Street you'll have to quickly purchase a ticket for the airport line ($5.50) at a machine or ticket window, otherwise be hit with the $2 surcharge for onboard purchases.
 
usair330
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RE: PHL Transportation

Thu May 19, 2005 3:28 pm

Steve sounds good to me....Have a great trip!
 
ramerinianair
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RE: PHL Transportation

Fri May 20, 2005 3:38 am

One last question and I promise that I will put this to rest until after I accually fly this:
My flights isn't untill 11:40AM with on-line check-in I am hoping to leave a little later.
If I Depart: NEW YORK PENN STA. 08:12 AM
Arrive: TRENTON (08608) 09:34 AM
Depart: TRENTON (08608) (SEPTA) 09:39 AM
Arrive: 30TH ST. (PHL.) (19102) 10:27 AM
Depart: 30TH STREET STATION (30TH AND MARKETS STS) PA 10:34
Arive:AIRPORT TERMINAL E (PHILA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT), 10:53
This would give me a little more time to sleep . . . every bit counts!
Thanks,
Steven
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tockeyhockey
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RE: PHL Transportation

Fri May 20, 2005 3:47 am

depending on the time of day, the best bet is to rent a car one way. avis, i know allows you to rent one way with minimal penalty. you might spend less than $40 on a compact car. your tolls will probably be about $8, and you'll use a half a tank of gas.

be careful with I-95 near trenton -- it get's very tricky. for some reason, I-95 in NJ and I-95 in PA don't match up. you have to take a bunch of roads around the south side of trenton to get into PA. make sure you mapquest it and do not just assume that I-95 out of NYC will connect you to I-95 in Philly.

if that fails, i would recommend the metroliner to 30th street station and the SEPTA R1 from 30th street station to the airport (takes about 20-30 minutes).

Expect to pay $5.50 for the trip since you are going to zone 5.
 
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RE: PHL Transportation

Fri May 20, 2005 3:49 am

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 16):
One last question and I promise that I will put this to rest until after I accually fly this:
My flights isn't untill 11:40AM with on-line check-in I am hoping to leave a little later.
If I Depart: NEW YORK PENN STA. 08:12 AM
Arrive: TRENTON (08608) 09:34 AM
Depart: TRENTON (08608) (SEPTA) 09:39 AM
Arrive: 30TH ST. (PHL.) (19102) 10:27 AM
Depart: 30TH STREET STATION (30TH AND MARKETS STS) PA 10:34
Arive:AIRPORT TERMINAL E (PHILA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT), 10:53
This would give me a little more time to sleep . . . every bit counts!
Thanks,
Steven

if i were doing this, i would definitely leave earlier. amtrak and SEPTA are notorious for being late.

again, the option of renting a car might be your best, assuming you're 25. you will shave two hours off of your travel time, and be brough door to door.
 
PHLBOS
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RE: PHL Transportation

Fri May 20, 2005 4:02 am

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 16):
My flights isn't untill 11:40AM with on-line check-in I am hoping to leave a little later.
If I Depart: NEW YORK PENN STA. 08:12 AM
Arrive: TRENTON (08608) 09:34 AM
Depart: TRENTON (08608) (SEPTA) 09:39 AM
Arrive: 30TH ST. (PHL.) (19102) 10:27 AM
Depart: 30TH STREET STATION (30TH AND MARKETS STS) PA 10:34
Arive:AIRPORT TERMINAL E (PHILA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT), 10:53

Will you be checking any bags? If you are, the recommended arrival time prior to your flight is usually 90 minutes; meaning that you would need to be at Terminal E by 10:10 AM. I'm not sure whether DL allows one to do an on-line check-in checked luggage is involved. At least they didn't in 2003 when I flew them last.

If you're just doing carry-on; on paper, your schedule will work. However, if you encounter a delay on either along your NJ Transit leg and/or along SEPTA's R7 line (from Trenton) and/or along the R1 Airport line; you could jeopardize being able to catch your flight.
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ramerinianair
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RE: PHL Transportation

Fri May 20, 2005 5:35 am

Thanks. I am not 25 yet so the car rental is out. Amtrak is a lot more expensive than the Transit and this whole things is costing enough already.
I am not checking luggage. It also seems like there will be set of trains in case I miss my train or it is late/cancelled. If something goes wrong, I think there may still be a good chance of me making the later train from 30th to PHL. That train gets in at 11:23 and then I would have to make a MAD DASH to the DL gates.
Steven
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