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What Jets Are Being Replaced/retired For A380?

Thu May 19, 2005 5:41 pm

Maybe I should ask of those carriers that purchased an A380 version, are there any plans to reduce fleet size to accomidate the plane when they get delivered?

Space can be freed up by removing a few large planes. Unless there is a sudden surge in travelers as this plane enters service. I doubt the latter because most people (being none of you) normally do not care for the type of plane that are on, they just wanna get somewhere and not have to sit in traffic or in a crowded train all day.

So I figure that unless a carrier is small, they have to make way for this plane. I'm not talking about physical size, I mean initial pax flows. Has any carrier announced plans for replacement or retirement, any knowledge you folks have is appreciated.
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RE: What Jets Are Being Replaced/retired For A380?

Thu May 19, 2005 5:45 pm

In many airlines cases, adding the A380 to the fleet will increase their fleet size which will enable B747s to open up different long haul routes or B747s will replace smalled aircraft on other routes to enable the smaller aircraft to open new routes
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RE: What Jets Are Being Replaced/retired For A380?

Thu May 19, 2005 6:05 pm

Obviously, the likes of Emirates, Qatar and Etihad have nothing that big to 'replace'! Elsewhere, it may be hard to tell for sure. Often airlines don't make a straight swap between model X and model Y but use an equipment change to alter somewhat the service they are offering. For example, SIA and reducing their 747-400 fleet. But are they being 'replaced' by A380s, by 777-300ERs, by both or by neither? Good question, Lephron.

If, say, UPS put an A380 on a route formerly operated by two A300s (I haven't checked the numbers, this is just for the sake of argument) would that be a 'replacement'? Perhaps it matters whether the planes are redeployed elsewhere (as 777ER suggests) or are disposed of. It could often be hard to say.

Do AF, LH or even VS have plans to dispose of any 744s when their A380s arrive?
 
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RE: What Jets Are Being Replaced/retired For A380?

Thu May 19, 2005 6:52 pm

Many A380s will, thats selfunderstood, mainly replace 744s after 2010 just because the first 744s will pass their 20th birthday (LH for example clocks about 100.000 hrs in 22 years on their Jumbos, time for final retirement). A 747 Advanced is sadly still uncertain and not all airlines with 744s would order them anyway.
SIA is certainly replacing more, if not most 744s earlier than 2010, and maybe Virgin will as well replace their first batch of 744s (delivered from ´94 onwards with 12 year lease contracts as much as I know) with A380s.
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