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List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 2:59 am

Does anyone have a source or a link to a list of U.S. airports ranked by total passengers. I need the top 100 or so, or at least up to the position where PVD falls. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
 
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:21 am

I think PVD falls in the mid to high 40 position...
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:23 am

The most extensive stats I could find were from the 2003 FAA ACE report, which has stats through 2002. These have probably changed a bit, but here's the list:


  • ATL
  • ORD
  • LAX
  • DFW
  • PHX
  • DEN
  • LAS
  • IAH
  • MSP
  • DTW
  • SFO
  • EWR
  • JFK
  • MIA
  • SEA
  • MCO
  • STL
  • PHL
  • CLT
  • BOS
  • LGA
  • CVG
  • HNL
  • BWI
  • SLC
  • PIT
  • FLL
  • MDW
  • IAD
  • TPA
  • SAN
  • DCA
  • OAK
  • PDX
  • SJC
  • MEM
  • MCI
  • CLE
  • SJU
  • MSY
  • SMF
  • RDU
  • BNA
  • SNA
  • HOU
  • IND
  • CMH
  • SAT
  • BDL
  • AUS
  • ONT
  • ABQ
  • DAL
  • MKE
  • PBI
  • OGG
  • PVD
  • RSW
  • JAX
  • ANC
  • BUR
  • RNO
  • BUF
  • OMA
  • SDF
  • ORF
  • TUS
  • MHT
  • OKC
  • ELP
  • TUL
  • ALB
  • BHM
  • BOI
  • GUM
  • GEG
  • GSO
  • LIH
  • KOA
  • ROC
  • RIC
  • DAY
  • LIT
  • COS
  • ISP
  • GRR
  • SYR
  • SAV
  • DSM
  • CHS
  • MSN
  • ITO
  • LGB
  • TYS
  • GSP
  • PNS
  • MDT
  • SFB
  • ICT
  • PWM


    Surprises?

    I'm astonished that Hilo (ITO) is on the list, but there is a ton of inter-island traffic out there.

    I'm also surprised that SFB is higher than ICT, and that ICT is so low. I thought that DSM would be higher, around the level of ELP or TUL. I guess not having WN service hurts them.

    Also, I think DFW has moved ahead of LAX now, but it could fall again now that DL has removed its hub operation.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:30 am

Wow, I am surprised how far down on the list DAY and CVG are.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:32 am

A lot has changed since 2003. I don't have the 2004 figures, but FLL and CVG have shot up, while STL and PIT have fallen pretty down.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:34 am

BWI might be a little higher, too ...
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:35 am

Philadelphia is the fourth largest city in the US, yet PHL is 18th. that is by far the most striking statistic here.

(although since this info is older, and WN has entered PHL, i think it has moved up a bit.)
 
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:41 am

Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 6):
Philadelphia is the fourth largest city in the US, yet PHL is 18th. that is by far the most striking statistic here.

Actually, Philly is the 5th largest city and the 6th largest metropolitan area.

Looking at the list, however, city size doesn't mean that much. The key factors are (1) hub, (2) geographic location, followed by (3) size.

Philadelphia, Boston, New York, and DC all split passengers quite a bit. And, they unquestionably lose more pax to rail travel than other regions.

DFW, ORD, STL, IAH, etc., have the advantage of being right in the middle of the country, and able to filter passengers to many different places. For example, it makes sense to fly SAN-DFW-MIA, but not SAN-PHL-MIA.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 3:42 am

Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 6):
Philadelphia is the fourth largest city in the US, yet PHL is 18th. that is by far the most striking statistic here.

According to the last census, Houston is now the 4th largest US city. Philly has slipped to number 5.

1-New York
2-Los Angeles
3-Chicago
4-Houston
5-Philladelphia

But it is an amazing fact you point out.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 4:14 am

Here are the 2004 preliminary figures from airports.org (top 30 in the world):

Rank City (Airport) Total Passengers

1. ATLANTA, GA (ATL) 83,578,906
2. CHICAGO, IL (ORD) 75,534,692
3. LONDON, GB (LHR) 67,343,960
4. TOKYO, JP (HND) 62,320,968
5. LOS ANGELES, CA (LAX) 60,710,830
6. DALLAS/FT WORTH AIRPORT, TX (DFW) 59,412,217
7. FRANKFURT, DE (FRA) 51,098,271
8. PARIS, FR (CDG) 50,860,561
9. AMSTERDAM, NL (AMS) 42,541,180
10. DENVER, CO (DEN) 42,393,693
11. LAS VEGAS, NV (LAS) 41,436,571
12. PHOENIX, AZ (PHX) 39,493,519
13. MADRID, ES (MAD) 38,525,899
14. BANGKOK, (BKK) 37,960,169
15. NEW YORK, NY (JFK) 37,362,010
16. MINNEAPOLIS/ST PAUL, MN (MSP) 36,748,577
17. HONG KONG, CN (HKG) 36,713,000
18. HOUSTON, TX (IAH) 36,490,828
19. DETROIT, MI (DTW) 35,199,307
20. BEIJING, CN (PEK) 34,883,190
21. SAN FRANCISCO, CA (SFO) 33,497,084
22. NEWARK, NJ (EWR) 31,847,280
23. LONDON, GB (LGW) 31,461,523
24. ORLANDO, FL (MCO) 31,110,852
25. TOKYO, JP (NRT) 31,106,264
26. SINGAPORE, SG (SIN) 30,353,565
27. MIAMI, FL (MIA) 30,156,727
28. SEATTLE/TACOMA, WA (SEA) 28,703,352
29. TORONTO, ON, CA (YYZ) 28,655,526
30. PHILADELPHIA, PA (PHL) 28,508,510
 
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 4:22 am

Those markets served by Southwest Airlines is quite interesting....
Shows just how much MORE of the nation is till "virgin" territory to them.
Illustrates their strength in the middle-sized markets, with less dependence on those larger and smaller...(Texas Excluded)

Markets Served By Southwest Airlines
4 out of the top 10 markets. (Wow)
8 out of the top 20 markets. (Double Wow)
21 out of the top 40 markets.
31 out of the top 50 markets.
54 out of the top 100 markets.
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22 out of the 25 markets ranked 25-50.
21 out of the 25 markets ranked 50-75.

Top 100 List/WN Markets
3- LAX
5- PHX
7- LAS
10- DTW
15- SEA
17- STL
18- PHL
24- BWI
25- SLC
26- PIT
27- FLL
28- MDW
30- TPA
31- SAN
33- OAK
34- PDX
35- SJC
37- MCI
38- CLE
40- MSY
41- SMF
42- RDU
43- BNA
44- SNA
45- HOU
46- IND
47- CMH
48- SAT
49- BDL
50- AUS
51- ONT
52- ABQ
53- DAL
55- PBI
57- PVD
59- JAX
61- BUR
62- RNO
63- BUF
64- OMA
65- SDF
66- ORF
67- TUS
68- MHT
69- OKC
70- ELP
71- TUL
72- ALB
73- BHM
74- BOI
76- GEG
83- LIT
85- ISP

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I wonder, if the "anti-WN" rhetoric, or the bias present against WN here on these boards comes from within those markets not served by WN?

Would love to see a survey of A.netters...as to this subject.

Survey would ask first, "YOUR LOCATION", followed by, "WOULD YOU CONSIDER YOUR VIEW TOWARDS WN BE CONSIDERED 'FAVORABLE' or 'UNFAVORABLE'?

Then the data would be expressed against the market-size of the respondent...
I have found, by Unscientific methods, those in the LARGE markets not served by WN generally view the airline as UNFAVORABLE, while those in markets below position 50, would view WN FAVORABLE

This observation due to those mid to small sized markets hoping for WN service in the future at their hometown airport.

While the negative position assumed by those in the larger markets is because of long-term relationships with legacy carriers with long-standing hub operations in said market. (The FF Factor....kind of like the O'Reilly Factor...with less mess  Wink)
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 4:36 am

Thanks everyone, I knew I could count on y'all for the info I needed! I was also able to find some stuff on the FAA website that I have never stumbled into before. (Anyone who has ever "navigated" the FAA/DOT websites know that you usually stumble onto things versus avtually locating it by any logical means!)
 
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 4:38 am

So, let's break it down even more: the top 100 airports (2002), and their respective ranks (2000) in city size and MSA size:


  • ATL [city=#40, MSA=#11]
  • ORD [city=#3, MSA=#3]
  • LAX [city=#2, MSA=#2]
  • DFW [city=#8, MSA=#9]
  • PHX [city=#6. MSA=#14]
  • DEN [city=#25, MSA=#19]
  • LAS [city=#32, MSA=#32]
  • IAH [city=#4, MSA=#10]
  • MSP [city=#46, MSA=#15]
  • DTW [city=#10, MSA=#8]
  • SFO [city=#13, MSA=5]
  • EWR [city=#64, MSA=#1]
  • JFK [city=#1, MSA=#1]
  • MIA [city=#48, MSA=12]
  • SEA [city=#24, MSA=#13]
  • MCO [city=#107, MSA=#28]
  • STL [city=#50, MSA=#18]
  • PHL [city=#5, MSA=#6]
  • CLT [city=#26, MSA=#34]
  • BOS [city=#20, MSA=#7]
  • LGA [city=#1, MSA=#1]
  • CVG [city=#55, MSA=#24]
  • HNL [city=#47. MSA=#56]
  • BWI [city=#17, MSA=#4]
  • SLC [city=#113, MSA=#36]
  • PIT [city=#53, MSA=#22]
  • FLL [city=#134, MSA=#12]
  • MDW [city=#3, MSA=#3]
  • IAD [city=#21, MSA=#4]
  • TPA [city=#58, MSA=#21]
  • SAN [city=#7, MSA=#17]
  • DCA [city=#21, MSA=#4]
  • OAK [city=#42, MSA=#5]
  • PDX [city=#28, MSA=#23]
  • SJC [city=#11, MSA=#5]
  • MEM [city=#18, MSA=#44]
  • MCI [city=#36, MSA=#26]
  • CLE [city=#33, MSA=#16]
  • SJU [city=#39, MSA=#20]
  • MSY [city=#31, MSA=#35]
  • SMF [city=#41, MSA=#25]
  • RDU [city=#63, MSA=#41]
  • BNA [city=#22, MSA=#39]
  • SNA [city=#56, MSA=#2]
  • HOU [city=#4, MSA=#10]
  • IND [city=#12, MSA=#29]
  • CMH [city=#15, MSA=#33]
  • SAT [city=#9, MSA=#30]
  • BDL [city=#135, MSA=#42]
  • AUS [city=#16, MSA=#38]
  • ONT [city=#131, MSA=#2]
  • ABQ [city=#35, MSA=#62]
  • DAL [city=#8, MSA=#9]
  • MKE [city=#19, MSA=#27]
  • PBI [city=N/A, MSA=#45]
  • OGG [city=N/A, MSA=N/A]
  • PVD [city=#121, MSA=#40]
  • RSW [city=#N/A, MSA=#95]
  • JAX [city=#14, MSA=#46]
  • ANC [city=#66, MSA=#140]
  • BUR [city=#243, MSA=#2]
  • RNO [city=#114, MSA=#121]
  • BUF [city=#59, MSA=#43]
  • OMA [city=#45, MSA=#61]
  • SDF [city=#67, MSA=#50]
  • ORF [city=#38, MSA=#31]
  • TUS [city=#30, MSA=#58]
  • MHT [city=#218, MSA=#7]
  • OKC [city=#29, MSA=#49]
  • ELP [city=#23, MSA=#64]
  • TUL [city=#44, MSA=#59]
  • ALB [city=N/A, MSA=#57]
  • BHM [city=#72, MSA=#55]
  • BOI [city=#108, MSA=#97]
  • GUM [city=N/A, MSA=N/A]
  • GEG [city=#99, MSA=#99]
  • GSO [city=#78, MSA=#37]
  • LIH [city=N/A, MSA=N/A]
  • KOA [city=N/A, MSA=N/A]
  • ROC [city=#80, MSA=#47]
  • RIC [city=#97, MSA=#51]
  • DAY [city=#126, MSA=#53]
  • LIT [city=#112, MSA=#74]
  • COS [city=#49, MSA=#81]
  • ISP [city=N/A, MSA=#1]
  • GRR [city=#96, MSA=#48]
  • SYR [city=#145, MSA=#60]
  • SAV [city=#166, MSA=#135]
  • DSM [city=#95, MSA=#91]
  • CHS [city=N/A, MSA=#77]
  • MSN [city=#84, MSA=#98]
  • ITO [city=N/A, MSA=N/A]
  • LGB [city=#34, MSA=#2]
  • TYS [city=#119, MSA=#63]
  • GSP [city=N/A, MSA=#52]
  • PNS [city=N/A, MSA=#100]
  • MDT [city=N/A, MSA=#67]
  • SFB [city=#107, MSA=#28]
  • ICT [city=#51, MSA=#78]
  • PWM [city=N/A, MSA=#150]
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 4:48 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 10):
Those markets served by Southwest Airlines is quite interesting....
Shows just how much MORE of the nation is till "virgin" territory to them.

I think you may be confusing the term "airport" for "market". They are not the same. eg: Whereas WN does not serve JFK/ORD, they do serve the NYC/CHI market.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 5:02 am

Quoting Ssides (Reply 12):
So, let's break it down even more: the top 100 airports (2002), and their respective ranks (2000) in city size and MSA size:

Those MSA numbers are way outdated because definitions of metros have since been redesigned.

The revised numbers for what is now definied as metro areas:
http://www.proximityone.com/msa03us.htm
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 5:10 am

Nice to see EWR ahead of JFK!

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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 5:59 am

I didn't think PVD's metro area was that high up...32nd!
 
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 6:11 am

Quoting Alphascan (Reply 13):
I think you may be confusing the term "airport" for "market".

I didn't confuse anything. This is a discussion on Airport (read: Market) Statistics.

Example: Islip

Referring to Islip as being in the New York Market is ok I suppose, when talking in broad generalities...however, the NYC Market is way too big, and too diverse to allow the application of wide-reaching and mostly generic labels across arbitrary borders.

To say Islip serves the NYC Market, is an incomprehensible piece of data to someone that lives on the opposite end of the metro, in say, Rockaway New Jersey. They may be in the same market, but the guy out in Rockaway could care less (generally speaking).

Airports have cachement areas...or....in layman's terms: Markets.
The Metropolitan New York City area is made up of several "Micro-Markets", each with their own demographic profile and characteristics. Walk just five blocks in Manhattan and you pass through at least 3 distinct markets.

In my business, Marketing, It is my job to take these markets, break'em down into sometimes hundreds of smaller markets, and then present that data to the client with a plan as to how best reach those customers in the individual markets. It's the way of business in 21st century.
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Sat May 21, 2005 7:30 am

Normally I wouldn't even respond. However, I'm stuck waiting for a fax after hours on a Friday evening and in an argumentative mood.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 17):
Airports have cachement areas...or....in layman's terms: Markets.

So ISP and JFK have mutually exclusive catchment areas? Same with MDW and ORD? How about DFW and DAL? LAX and LGB or for that matter SNA?


In order for your original point about "virgin territory" to be valid, mutual exclusivity would have to be the case. In the real world of marketing, if WN began service at "virgin" ORD, it's MDW traffic would be diluted by the overlap of each airport's catchment area.

By the way, cachement does not seem to be a word.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 12:43 pm

Semantics.

Cachement<>Catchment

We use it all the time.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 7:55 pm

I can't believe PHX is that high up! Does HP have that many flights, or what's the deal?
 
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 8:29 pm

Guys, where is the problem to get the North American ranking?

Try it here! You will get the preliminary Passaeger Data 2004
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 8:42 pm

Quoting B742 (Reply 15):
Nice to see EWR ahead of JFK!



That is info from 2002. Because of B6, JFK now handles about 6,000,000 more pax per year tban EWR.

2004 stats:

National ranking:

8 JFK--37,362,010
13 EWR--31,847,280
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sat May 21, 2005 10:16 pm

Did anyone notice the 35% jump in passenger traffic at IAD? It couldn't possibly be from Independence Air, could it? Also Orlando Sanford must really be packing those charter flights from Europe for a 46% jump. PIE is pretty nice too at 41%.

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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sun May 22, 2005 1:25 am

Um HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BWI IS HIGHER ON THE LIST THAN IAD? That really upsets me actually...... its very odd.... can WN make that big of a difference? I cant believe that IAD has less pax....

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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sun May 22, 2005 1:31 am

Quoting Newkai (Reply 20):
I can't believe PHX is that high up! Does HP have that many flights, or what's the deal?

One of Southwest's biggest operations on their network is at Sky Harbor. Between the two, Southwest and America West, they do a brisk business.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sun May 22, 2005 1:36 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 24):
Um HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BWI IS HIGHER ON THE LIST THAN IAD? That really upsets me actually...... its very odd.... can WN make that big of a difference? I cant believe that IAD has less pax....

This is very old news. BWI surpassed IAD as well as DCA in passenger numbers a long while back. DCA used to have higher passenger numbers than BWI or IAD and that slipped a bit before 9-11 if I'm not mistaken.

And I'm glad that BWI is busier than Dulles because IAD stole virtually all international traffic from BWI. I just found out the Aer Lingus doesn't even serve BWI anymore so basically the only international airlines serving BWI are British Airways, Icelandair, and Air Jamaica.

I've always wondered how Dulles has almost three times as many airlines as BWI but less passenger traffic as well. But, who cares. BWI is my home airport and I'm happy.
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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sun May 22, 2005 1:45 am

Quoting NW727251ADV (Reply 26):
And I'm glad that BWI is busier than Dulles because IAD stole virtually all international traffic from BWI. I just found out the Aer Lingus doesn't even serve BWI anymore so basically the only international airlines serving BWI are British Airways, Icelandair, and Air Jamaica

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RE: List Of Top 100 U.S. Airports By # Of Pax?

Sun May 22, 2005 2:13 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 15):
Nice to see EWR ahead of JFK!

Nice to see PHX in front of JFK!!!

It has to be all those HP 733s and A320s!