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Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Tue May 24, 2005 12:08 pm

Good evening gentlemen,

Spanish low-cost, long-haul airline Air Madrid will start new routes and add more frequencies to its Latin American network.

According to their website at AirMadrid.com, it will look as follows:


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All flights starting August 1, 2005

Air Madrid will start flying from Tenerife to Buenos Aires, Argentina on Thursdays, on a 1x weekly basis. The flight will originate at Madrid, thus NM will also compete against Iberia on the lucrative Mainland-Canaries market. Air Madrid will be the only airline linking the Canaries and Argentina. The return flight, however, will have TFN as its final destination.

NM 1243 MAD 1300Z TFN 1630Z EZE 2315Z
NM 1244 EZE 0045Z TFN 1445Z

Air Madrid will also add more frequencies to its MAD-EZE route, so as to serve it daily.

Monday:
NM 1211 MAD 1330Z EZE 2055Z
NM 1212 EZE 2230Z MAD 1530Z +1

Tuesday:
NM 1221 MAD 1100Z EZE 1830Z
NM 1222 EZE 2030Z MAD 1330Z +1

Wednesday:
NM 1231 MAD 2250Z EZE 0620Z +1
NM 1232 EZE 1500Z MAD 0800Z +1

Thursday/Friday:
NM 1243 MAD 1300Z EZE 2315Z **Op via TFN**
NM 1252 EZE 1500Z MAD 0800Z +1

Friday/Saturday:
NM 1251 MAD 2250Z EZE 0620Z +1
NM 1252 EZE 1500Z MAD 0800Z +1

Saturday/Sunday:
NM 1271 MAD 1000Z EZE 1730Z +1
NM 1262 EZE 0050Z MAD 1750Z +1
NM 1272 EZE 1930Z MAD 1230Z +1

Air Madrid will also fly from Tenerife to Caracas, Venezuela on Fridays, on a 1x weekly basis. NM will compete against Venezuela-based Santa Bárbara Airlines on that route.

NM 1551 TFN 1645Z CCS 1645Z
NM 1552 CCS 2015Z TFN 0745Z +1

According to their website, Air Madrid will fly from MAD to Bolivia. Although it does not speciphy to which city, I believe it will be Santa Cruz de la Sierra (VVI), due to LPB's high altitude. Flights will operate on Sundays.

NM 1671 MAD 2355Z VVI 0530Z +1
NM 1672 VVI 0700Z MAD 0515Z +1 **Op via LIM**

Air Madrid will codeshare on Air Europa-operated flights from Madrid to Quito and Guayaquil, Ecuador, on Mondays, Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays.

Their MAD-SCL flight already appears on their timetable, yet they are still waiting for authorization from the Chilean authorities.

Sunday/Monday:
NM 1471 MAD 2320Z SCL 0700Z +1
NM 1472 SCL 1115Z MAD 0600Z +1

Wednesday/Thursday:
NM 1431 MAD 2320Z SCL 0700Z +1
NM 1432 SCL 1115Z MAD 0600Z +1

Finally, starting September 27, 2005, Air Madrid will fly from Las Palmas de Gran Canaria (LPA) to Buenos Aires, Argentina, on Fridays, on a 1x weekly basis.

NM 1253 LPA 1700Z EZE 2345Z
NM 1254 EZE 0100Z LPA 1500Z

So, Air Madrid is going big. Will they make it? Let's wait and see...

Saludos,
Marambio

[Edited 2005-05-24 05:15:38]
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Tue May 24, 2005 3:07 pm

That's great news for Southamerica! Maybe in a near future we'll have them at Mexico making tougher the competition for the MAD-MEX-MAD route.

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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAme

Tue May 24, 2005 3:13 pm

Yeha! would be great seeing another spanish airline in mexico, no offence Iberia  Wink

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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Tue May 24, 2005 3:34 pm

Totally agree Ltena. Plus that'll bring us cheaper fares, and something new for spotting!

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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Tue May 24, 2005 4:31 pm

Air Madrid were the first low-cost to start flying into Lima and they've since had an amazing load factor on every single flight. That is hardly surprising since you can get a return to Madrid for about 600 USD, including all taxes. They could improve their in-flight service, but you can't ask for much if you are paying so little  Smile
 
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Tue May 24, 2005 9:46 pm

Why would Air Madrid fly to VVI vía LIM as I understand from the first post? The Air Madrid LIM operations are worth as-such and don´t need feeder service, plus, rerouting a flight from VVI to MAD via LIM is zig-zagging accross the contintent. LH used to do that in the past, but was not so wise.

It would be preferable for Air Madrid to target nonstop operations from either CBB (Cochabamba, Bolivia) or VVI (Viru Viru international, Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia) to MAD, or if necessary to make an intermediate stop in a city that is geographically logic, like some in Northeast Brazil.

LPB deffinitively would be OK if Air Madrid flies to/from LIM, but not for longhaul operations due to the altitude, correct.

If Air Madrid wants to catch a large volume of the Spain traffic from Bolivia, CBB would be a good target airport because this city offers a large volume of travellers to Spain, and no direct flights - LB leaves to MAD from VVI eventhough CBB is it´s home city (not hub: it´s VVI).
 
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Tue May 24, 2005 10:11 pm

Quoting Ltena (Reply 2):
would be great seeing another spanish airline in mexico,

Noy only that, but we would finally get a 330 at MEX.
 
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Wed May 25, 2005 1:00 am

Quoting 123 (Reply 5):
Why would Air Madrid fly to VVI vía LIM as I understand from the first post? The Air Madrid LIM operations are worth as-such and don´t need feeder service, plus, rerouting a flight from VVI to MAD via LIM is zig-zagging accross the contintent. LH used to do that in the past, but was not so wise.

This most likely has to do with the crew; If Air Madrid was to fly MAD - VVI - MAD once a week, they would have to leave a crew in Santa Cruz a whole week, while if they stop in LIM on the way back to MAD, the crew changes in LIM. It's so that LIM seems to be the other nearest city to VVI served by Air Madrid.
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Wed May 25, 2005 1:13 am

Will they get an A340 ? on their site in the fares section, it give a first class fare from EZE or SCL to MAD only on the A340.
Any ideas on this ?
 
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Wed May 25, 2005 3:36 am

Air Madrid has an A340-300 lined up for them for the EZE route:

http://planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=325105

I think Air Madrid has already taken delivery?

Air Madris is also leasing a A310 and A330 for the summer season.

Does anyone know about Air Madrids old plans to start flights to SJU?
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Wed May 25, 2005 3:45 am

For me it's an interesting development to see, how a Long Range LCC will perform and I have to say I am real curious and hope the best.
Can anybody give me some hints what the market of Air Plus Comet is? Do they also fly as LCC and are they in competition with Air Madrid as for example on the MAD - BOG route or do they attract different clients? Thanks a lot for any info.
 
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Wed May 25, 2005 5:44 am

Does Air Madrid plan to return to the Brazilian market?

Their withdrawal from GIG struck me as tragic, I hope they return soon.
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RE: Air Madrid Heavily Expanding All Over LatinAmerica

Wed May 25, 2005 3:12 pm

Quoting RG828 (Reply 11):
Does Air Madrid plan to return to the Brazilian market?

Their withdrawal from GIG struck me as tragic, I hope they return soon.

As Air Madrid flights to GIG were charter, they do not have the authorization to sell all seats GIG-MAD. Due to this, they decide to cancel the route and as IB announced its increase in GIG-MAD service (from 4x weekly to daily) as of November/05, probably Air Madrid will try to find other places (Northeast could be an idea) to fly in Brazil.

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