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Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 7:13 am

here is a translation , the pics are on the page

http://www.avia.ru/photo/tu204-300/

''in the international airport "Vnukovo", practically immediately after its certification, took place the presentation of new aircraft that 204-300. On it together with the journalists were present the leaders of all enterprises and organizations, which participated in the financing, the design, the building of aircraft and for whom one must exploit him. New liner differ significantly from its fellows in the technical and economic characteristics. It is shorter than its prototype Tu-100 to 6 meters, for which the journalists had time to baptize by its "korotyshkoy".
Aircraft considerably exceeds all existing and future technical limitations, introduced ICAO. With the low takeoff weight it can be exploited from the airfields of class "in" up to the distance in 3000-3500 km. But there are thus far still very many such airfields in our country. Up to the great distances to 8500 km it will take off from the airfields of class "B". Thus it is possible to considerably enlarge the geography of its flights.
For the return on the voyage are necessary only of 78 passengers, while for Il-62 are necessary to 106, while for Il-300 140 passengers.
On the assertion of specialists the profitability of new aircraft in comparison with the domestic analogs by 18% is higher, payback period with the acting tariffs - 4-5 years.
Today aircraft Tu-300 with identification number Ra -64038 was transmitted to airline "Vladivostok by avias". This the first of four aircraft of such type, which will obtain the Far-Eastern company into the leasing from "Il'yushin Finans of company" general works manager "Aviastar- CP", where aircraft was built, it certified, that remaining three liners will be finished already in this year.
Assuming new domestic liner, general director "Vladivostok to avias" Victor Saybel' stated that with these aircraft it connects the large plans of the development of company.
In several hours after the completion of solemn presentation new aircraft took course on Vladivostok.''
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 7:20 am

I know a lot of people say the 204 looks like a 757, but I'd say it looks more like an A321.

Anyway, good news for Tupolev.
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics

Sun May 29, 2005 7:28 am

This is very exciting. I wish the airplane's
designers, promoters, manufacturers, subscribed
airlines, crews, passengers, mechanics and even
its financiers, Ilyushin finance, all the very best
with this new Tupelov.

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Sun May 29, 2005 7:33 am

GOOD LUCK! Tupolev and its partners should be able to sell this airplane if they can prove it is reliable and cost efficient, as well as be able to provide tech and parts support.
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 7:35 am

''as well as be able to provide tech and parts support.''

That is the big stumbling block that russian aerospace companies will never overcome. even during the soviet days spare parts for foreign customers were difficult to get
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 8:04 am

noticed something..in spite of all the innovation the cockpit control panels are still typically Teal green/blue.
Congrats anyway!
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 8:10 am

Great legs on the stewardess.  Wink
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 8:13 am

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 1):
I know a lot of people say the 204 looks like a 757, but I'd say it looks more like an A321.

757 nose, but 321 body, IMHO.

nice large economy drop down LCDs, and nice first class personal video screens, too!
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 8:14 am

Great, congratulations to Tupolev  champagne 

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Sun May 29, 2005 8:18 am

Nice work Tupolev, I love those doors, cross between Boeing's and Airbus',

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Sun May 29, 2005 8:21 am





I think this proves that the Russians are able to make planes that seriously rival the main western competitors! Now, some of those British charter airlines' 757s are getting rather old... a replacement perhaps! Silly
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 9:23 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 10):
I think this proves that the Russians are able to make planes that seriously rival the main western competitors!

They know how to do it, just have to come out of their shell. If they try, they can be tough competitors. Their prices won't be high either, and AFAIK Russian machinery is quite rugged and easy to maintain...
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 12:12 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 11):
If they try, they can be tough competitors. Their prices won't be high either, and AFAIK Russian machinery is quite rugged and easy to maintain...

Thats all well and good, but the problem is a) can they guarantee production in numbers which an airline will want and b) can they guarantee ongoing technical support. Given the underfunded state of the Russian aviation industry, I think the answer to both questions would be no. Unfortunately for them, these factors tip the balance in favour of the western manufacturers, which of course creates a bit of a vicious circle, because if no one orders, then no money is going to come in to help them get out of the situation they are in. What is needed is a large order which will underwrite Russian civil aircraft production, but I seriously doubt whether there are any airlines who would both be in the position to place such an order, and willing to take the risk on it.

That's not to say there isn't a future for Russian civil aircraft production, but it is doubtless going to be a difficult road. Best of luck to them I say - it would be great to see them succeed.

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Sun May 29, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 12):
What is needed is a large order which will underwrite Russian civil aircraft production, but I seriously doubt whether there are any airlines who would both be in the position to place such an order, and willing to take the risk on it.

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Sun May 29, 2005 4:49 pm

FriendlySkies,

I agree 100%. The Tu-204 looks much more like the A321, even its nose :


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In any case, it's a very good looking airplane. I flew it only once (Air Cairo) and I've been very impressed.
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 5:18 pm

when are we gonna get the first A vs B vs T thread?  Smile
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 6:02 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 1):
know a lot of people say the 204 looks like a 757, but I'd say it looks more like an A321.

Def more like the A321.
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Sun May 29, 2005 6:08 pm

Quoting Vasu (Reply 10):
think this proves that the Russians are able to make planes that seriously rival the main western competitors! Now, some of those British charter airlines' 757s are getting rather old... a replacement perhaps!

Ohhh, LCD screen and modern looking seats---ohhh! Welcome to 1995, Tupolev! Stop the orders to Boeing and Airbus! Give me a break, Russian aerospace will never be up to par with regards to commercial aerospace from Western Europe and the USA.
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pm

Congrats to Tupolev. I hope that can carve out a niche for themselves in orders of the next generations of aircraft.
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 9:42 pm

JCS17:
Have to disagree with you. Russian aerospace companies were at least on a par with their Western equivalents at one time, with the possible exception of their powerplants. The previous comments are spot-on regarding spares/maintenance back up, but one of the biggest deterrents to non-Soviet or CIS countries/satellites was the brutish, uneconomical, dirty and loud engines. Russian models were simply not designed to compete in other markets, because their makers didn't have to worry about operating economics in a command economy. I also don't judge the performance and comfort of an aircraft by looking at it's 3rd party interior fittings.

However, that said, I still love to hear the siren like sound of a Tu154A or B model upon start up, and play 'spot the 134' by its dirt trail!
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 10:26 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 6):
Great legs on the stewardess.

She looks like Angelina Jolie if you ask me!
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Sun May 29, 2005 10:34 pm

Sweet.

I'll order 50 of them, and operate them with great success.

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*just kidding. Looks great and I hope it does well. Hope it keeps A and B on their toes.

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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 12:16 am

Oh well - it gives the "My Boeing Right or Wrong" fraternity something else to get paranoid about!   

It's certainly got an unusual look, but as long as its safe, reliable and economic to operate I wish the TU well. It looks comfortable enough in the cabin anyway. It would be good to see the once mighty, and always innovative, Russian/CIS aerospace industry build on any success that the new aircraft attracts and get back in the game after a long time trying to find direction again.   

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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 3:05 am

Nice plane, and hummm nice F/A  Wink

Thanks for the link.

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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 3:31 am

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 17):
Russian aerospace will never be up to par with regards to commercial aerospace

Russian aerospace is presently the only was to get to the International Space Station...
Russian heavylifters are are in big demand for outsize cargo such as oil rig equipment.
Large Russian helicopters are also popular in many parts of the world.

Don't be so quick to judge..
 
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 6:30 am

I could look this up, but what is the range on this plane and in what sort of applications could it find a good home?
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 7:03 am

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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 7:10 am

Everything about it looks great, except for the Flight Attendant's hat!!!

I agree it looks similar to the A319/320/321.... Would like to see it in person!!!

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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 7:13 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 25):
I could look this up, but what is the range on this plane and in what sort of applications could it find a good home?

it's not based on anything (to darn lazy considering it's midnight here), but I believe it's designed as a replacement for the TU-154
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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 5:11 pm

No, it's more a replacement for the longer thinner haul routes (like the ones made by IL-62s).

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RE: Tupolev Tu-204-300 First Revenue Flight! (pics)

Mon May 30, 2005 5:36 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 1):
I know a lot of people say the 204 looks like a 757, but I'd say it looks more like an A321.

It is a dead copy of a 752, with an A321esque nose

Quoting Sterne82 (Reply 29):
No, it's more a replacement for the longer thinner haul routes (like the ones made by IL-62s).



Quoting JRadier (Reply 28):
but I believe it's designed as a replacement for the TU-154

Actually, both
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