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Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:59 am

Wanted to get a sense from people what orders will be announced for Boeing?

Types, airlines and numbers please.
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zvezda
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:23 am

Boeing doesn't set the timing of their product announcments. Rather, Boeing leaves the timing up to the preference of the airlines.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:30 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Boeing doesn't set the timing of their product announcments. Rather, Boeing leaves the timing up to the preference of the airlines.

I understand that, I was just looking for opinions (informed or otherwise) from A.Net members.
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:33 am

Ok, my predictions...

LOT order for 6 + 6 787s
Formal launch of 737-900X with Lion Air & JAL as launch customers
Formal launch of 747Adv with Cargolux and Cathay as launch customers
Maybe some 787 orders from leasing companies
More 737 orders
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:35 am

l know this is a longshot, but what the heck
AA - a dozen 787's
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:36 am

l know this is a longshot, but what the heck
AA - a dozen 787's


If that were to happen, I would be more interested in what the livery would look like, considering the lack of metal.

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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:42 am

Quote:
Reply:3 FriendlySkies: LOT order for 6 + 6 787s
Formal launch of 737-900X with Lion Air & JAL as launch customers
Formal launch of 747Adv with Cargolux and Cathay as launch customers
Maybe some 787 orders from leasing companies
More 737 orders

In addition to what friendlyskies stated above, I believe that SQ, might order some 772LR, and UAE may also order some 772LR and more 773ER. Plus a few surprise 787 orders?  Smile
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:06 am

i'm thinking British Midland International (BD) going for 3/4 787-3's
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:09 am

Quoting AeroPiggot (Reply 6):
In addition to what friendlyskies stated above, I believe that SQ, might order some 772LR, and UAE may also order some 772LR and more 773ER.

EK adding a 773ER/772LR isn't out of the question. Could go something like: dump order for 20 A346HGW, convert to 50 A350, replace A346 with 777 products.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 1):
Boeing doesn't set the timing of their product announcments. Rather, Boeing leaves the timing up to the preference of the airlines.

True... but have the last 18 months been typical convention for Boeing? While they didn't hold the Air Canada, Northwest, and Air India bombshells for Paris... I'd expect something of mild suprise to be announced.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:10 am

Qatar for 60 787 frames....
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:20 am

I am hoping the 747A gets the green light.  spin 

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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:32 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 8):
I'd expect something of mild suprise to be announced.

What have these surprises been in past years? I don't remember anything too interesting happening for B last year at Paris that would indicate a surprise should be expected every year.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:02 am

Quoting Moose1226 (Reply 11):
I don't remember anything too interesting happening for B last year at Paris

That's why it will be a surprise this year...
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:15 pm

http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story_s.asp?storyid=94087

"While Emirates is set to order a combination of A350s and Boeing's ultra-long range B777-200LRs, Qatar Airways is set to order as many as 50 to 60 B787s."

If Emirates is set to order 50 A350s, and Qatar Airways orders 50-60 787's, and the net orders are supposed to total 120 aircraft, then Emirates must also be set to buy 10-20 777-200LRs. Not bad.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:27 am

Who is the new A380 Customer?

PARIS AIR SHOW Airbus says will announce new A380 order during air show
06.13.2005, 09:08 AM

PARIS (AFX) - Airbus SAS vice-president Philippe Delmas said the plane maker will announce a new order for its A380 double-decker 'superjumbo' at the Le Bourget air show.

Asked whether Airbus would be announcing a new A380 order this week, Delmas replied: 'One can expect that.'

Airbus will hold a press conference tomorrow morning.

The company has so far received 154 orders for the A380, of which 144 are firm deals. Breakeven on the project has been put as high as 300 planes should the dollar remain weak.

Airbus is owned 80 pct by the European Aeronautic Space and Defence Co (EADS) and 20 pct by BAE Systems PLC.

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2005/06/13/afx2089314.html
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:45 am

Alaska, (24) 738 via leasers.....in Seattle Time though not confirmed

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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:53 am

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 9):
Qatar for 60 787 frames....

Sorry, Qatar just ordered 60 A350's and 20 777's........
See the other thread about this..

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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:37 am

First Boeing order at the show , was 5 737-800 for FR.
Surely the confirmation of the 737-700 order by Sky Europe.
787 for QR is over as KL911 mentionned.
No way to see an EK order at Paris.
No way to see the official launch of the 747ADV at Paris , since it will probably be announced at the next Boeing boarding meeting at the end of this month.
Any new customers for 787s at Paris ? A mystery !!!!!!!!
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:37 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 17):
Any new customers for 787s at Paris ? A mystery !!!!!!!!

I was hoping for LOT order to be made official, but they keep postponing it and now with A350 in the race it would be interesting to see who gets to renew LOTs widebody fleet...
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:50 pm

Quoting FCKC (Reply 17):
No way to see an EK order at Paris

Well it's heavily rumored that EK will indeed announce their 777 order at Le Bourget and wait until Dubai in November to announce their A350 commitment.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:58 pm

Quoting ER757 (Reply 4):
AA - a dozen 787's

ROFL! Thanks fot the laugh.

Quoting Pyxisnautica (Reply 13):
Qatar Airways is set to order as many as 50 to 60 B787s."

Where is this coming from? They only got (20) 777's non-specific to type.
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:43 pm

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 21):
Yeah, what a surprise. I bet Boeing are happy as pigs in sh** at getting totally blown away by Airbus at Paris.

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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:46 pm

Might the QR "order" for 60 A350s tip the scales for the 789 to EK, just out of shear competition?
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:16 am

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 21):
Yeah, what a surprise. I bet Boeing are happy as pigs in sh** at getting totally blown away by Airbus at Paris.

I bet Boeing wouldn't trade the orders it received at Paris for the ones Airbus received.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders At The Paris Air Show

Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:55 am

Quoting M27 (Reply 25):
I bet Boeing wouldn't trade the orders it received at Paris for the ones Airbus received.

Indeed, as most seem to be spectulative "commitments" from a few questionable (or at least extremely new) airlines with no track record or much of a business plan that Airbus seemed desperate to make then and there. We shall see, I suppose.

As far as Boeing "getting totally blown away", I'll only note that they outsold Airbus by a margin of 9 to 1 when it comes to actual firm orders - I really dont think Boeing had a bad week at all. They still have twice the number of firm orders to date, almost twice the number of announced commitments, and the year is hardly half over. And going by the number of rank announcements made at Paris, Id say Airbus is pretty well spent for the rest of the year until Emirates and a few others make their next mega-batch of orders sometime in September.

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