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YUL -- Remember The Days....

Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:40 am

I remember when I used to take the 204 after school and go to YUL to watch the planes from inside the airport. I used to go upstairs to the A&W and buy a burger and watch the planes on the tarmac from my table. I was royally pissed off when I found out that they borded all the windows up and replaced the space with more ticket counters (downstairs). And the only stairs I have seen that go upstairs is the ones that bring you to the Air France lounge. Since the airport renovations, I have not seen any viewing areas unless you are past security and in the jetties. Hell, there was even a time when people could go outiside on the balcony!

I guess those days are over....
 
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Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:43 am

Congrats! ...you just made me cry.

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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:05 pm

AC7E7 -- I remember when I used to take the 204 after school and go to YUL to watch the planes from inside the airport. I used to go upstairs to the A&W and buy a burger and watch the planes on the tarmac from my table.

Well the upstairs A&W deal has been gone for ages now but yeah the (mid-90s-updated) food court tarmac viewing downstairs and also from the windows of the old W.H. Smith bookstore next to it has only been gone for 2 1/2 years now. Seems like ages though doesn't it, given that now there's nothing at all and from the public access standpoint it's like a big downtown bus or train station or something in there ouch 

Mind you, I think the expanded food and retail court that they put in instead of those last original windows is pretty decent overall now and even the lighting its not too bad and the public seating decor at least makes an effort to brighten the place up a bit and seems to accomplish the task to some extent. Still not the same for anybody who remembers the way it used to be only a short while ago though (or especially earlier as well).

And the only stairs I have seen that go upstairs is the ones that bring you to the Air France lounge.

With the 3rd-floor roof HVAC boxes over the retail court, even the view from the Air France and British Airways lounges has been mightily blocked for a good long while now too! Fortunately for both passengers and especially the staff who work there though --who I imagine have had to field mucho complaints from passengers about it-- the new International jetty and new boarding lounges are set to be up and running by about this time next week. Local CTV affiliate CFCF just had a "sneak preview" of the place on tonight's late news a few minutes ago so it seems like it's finally gonna happen. Those boarding lounge staff members really really can't wait.



Hell, there was even a time when people could go outiside on the balcony!


Yeah YUL was originally designed more for Super Connies rather than Stage 1 jets so when DC-9s and such went roaring by for takeoffs on 10-28 it was something all right, being outside on that there viewing terrace running along the length of the building. Unusable for adults but lots of fun for young kids especially  Smile (speaking from experience too )


I guess those days are over....

Definitely the outdoor part, yup. Though at ADM's annual meeting about a month ago Mr. Cherry was saying that there are plans to bring some form of glassed-in and panoramic viewing area back, incorporated into a possible multi-floor hotel atop a new U.S. pre-clearance area to be built just groundside of the new transborder pier. Apparently they're still negotiating with American authorities over what exactly they're going to end up building there but for the time being from ADM's standpoint that's what they're intending at least.

So in about 2-3 years time maybe there'll be something for public-access viewing again.
 
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:20 pm

Even though I miss the old viewing areas, I still love what they have done with the airport.

Quoting Mark_D. (Reply 2):
Well the upstairs A&W deal has been gone for ages now but yeah the (mid-90s-updated) food court tarmac viewing downstairs and also from the windows of the old W.H. Smith bookstore next to it has only been gone for 2 1/2 years now

Yeah, I would go into the W.H. Smith book store, grab a book, and just watch the aircraft. I didn't realize it has only been 2.5 years! The A&W has been gone for a while... too bad because the viewing from there was fantastic!

Hopefully there will be some sort of viewing area one day...

Cheers,

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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:24 pm

Has anyone seen any pictures yet of the new international finger? I'm dying to see it, and unfortunately I don't see myself flying out of it any time soon!
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:41 pm

I have only seen the outside from the Dorval Golf course. I'm sure the inside looks much better than where international flights operate from now!
 
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:30 pm

Great post AC7E7,

I recall doing the same at YYZ Terminal One (old). Not only was the parking garage a great place for viewing, but there were also several observation decks placed at gate level, between the gates.

I would pedal my bicycle out there and watch Viscounts and Vanguards loading and unloading all day. Yeah ... it WAS a few years ago.

We used to have a pairing I would bid a lot about 5 years ago. We would fly YYZ-MIA-YUL, then sit 3 hours before flying YUL-YYZ. I would grab a burger and watch planes for an hour or so at Dorval. I guess it never leaves you!
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:45 am

Who knows Longhauler, I may have sat right next to you at Dorval. I recall many pilots being there at A&W while I was there. Say, doing any flights to Calgary this month?

Cheers,

Brandon
 
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:50 am

I grew up near the airport. I used to go there on Sunday afternoons with my father, we would go out on the deck and watch everything. I think that is how I got addicted to jet fumes....

A few years later I played soccer at the Surrey field at the end of the runway...never did hit any planes with the ball though (not from lack of trying)
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:04 am

The good old days!!!!

Its funny I have more childhood memories of YUL than just about anything else in my life. I too use to take the 204 (or stop at the dorval train station and walk). There were they days of the A&W and just sitting aimlessly for hours staring out the planes from the upstairs lounge. I think ADM should have just kept the burger king and eggspectation and keep all the windows.

It was really YUL that inspired me to do what I really want in life and become an airline pilot. Staring out the window and staring at a dream. Talking to some great pilots and gaining the confidence to do what I wanted.

Although I'm happy that YUL is modernizing and become a beautiful airport. I will always miss the spotting inside. I guess for now sitting at the end of 24R will do.

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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:15 am

Good old days? What about this really good old days?

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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:59 am

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 4):
Has anyone seen any pictures yet of the new international finger? I'm dying to see it, and unfortunately I don't see myself flying out of it any time soon

Here ya go, I was on a preopening tour two weekends ago (There's a few more on My Aviation.net under my name);


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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:53 am

When does the new international finger open? I may be flying to Europe through YUL later in the month and would love to see it.
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:55 am

Quoting HanginOut (Reply 12):
When does the new international finger open? I may be flying to Europe through YUL later in the month and would love to see it.

Next week. June 8th IIRC.  Smile
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:57 am

Quoting HanginOut (Reply 12):
When does the new international finger open? I may be flying to Europe through YUL later in the month and would love to see it.

June 8th is the official opening date.
 
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:33 am

Thanks YUL332LX and Quebecair727

I can't wait to see it in person (I'll probably be flying through YUL on the 13th).  spin 

Does anyone know how close the Maple Leaf Lounge is to the new international finger?
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:25 am

Although I'm not 100% sure but Air Canada's facilities in the new international jetty won't be available at the opening. Some of the lounges will only be ready in the fall I believe. The whole wing though was impressive. The Air France A380 gate was nicely done. It should all be an effective addition for Montreal and a big relief to see the end of the old Aeroquay (circa 1950s or 1960s) which will be closed for good along with that ugly underground walk we all had to do countless times over.

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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:04 am

Has it now been decided that the entire old Aeroquay will be destroyed?

It was previously my understanding that the portion currently used for domestic (LCC's) and regional flights would be retained, at least as a back-up (like the IFT at YYZ, I believe). No complaints from me if it is, indeed, to be destroyed, but I'm curious as to whether it might be wise to keep part of it over capacity concerns.
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:39 am

The aeroquay will only be destroyed up till gates 32/31. The rest of the aeroquay will remain there. I just want to know when they will renovate the damn domestic finger. Very embarrassing...
 
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:49 am

YMX - Remember The Days.. pessimist 

Remember the days of those graceful Aerolineas Argentinas 747-200s?
Remember the days of those classy Royal Jordanian Tristars?
Remember the days of those warm IBERIA DC-10s?
Remember the days of those exotic VARIG DC-10s?
Remember the days of those beautiful Swissair MD-11s?
Remember the days of those friendly TAP A310s?
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RE: YUL -- Remember The Days....

Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:26 am

Don't forget some classics like SAS' DC-10, Swissair's "bandit" 747s, Lufthansa's A310s, Sabena's 747s (I miss Sabena) and even Aer Lingus' 707s.... those were good spotting days..

Back at YUL prior to YMX I remember Aeroflot sending in TU-104s (I believe)... they had such a distinctive rumble as they came in over the city.. sounding like bomber aircraft. The massive double propellors chugging away... Then let's not forget BOAC's Super VC-10s... b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l ! then their was the first 747 I ever say.. Air France's 747-100 sailed over my friend's house and had me running into the street pointing at the sky.. it was one of the triggers that got me interested in airplanes...

Today however we still have a good list of interesting airlines and aircraft for a city with a smaller volume than most cities of similar size. We really can't complain. Plus with the occasional diversion you never really know what might show up on 24R on any day... there's often amazing surprises. (recently Virgin's A346, Emirates 773ER...)

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