Have any of you seen UA
's business plan or know what they plan to make a profit at? I do. The latest plan that I have heard of, before the new labor contracts accounted for $45 dollar a barrel fuel to make a profit. The new one, is higher.
I also pose one question to all of you at a.net: How many of you currently work for UA
? Furthermore, how many of you work in Elk Grove? It is uninformed posts like this that drive awesome members like mm320cap away. Do any of you remember him? And BAW716 I know you used to work for UA
and I respect that, but how do all of you seem to know what is UA
's business plan?
Additionally, what IF
(and that is a BIG if) Tilton is right? He is not trying to win a popularity contest. He is the CEO to make UA
competitive. If that moron Goodwin was still in charge, UA
would have been Chap. 7 in 02-03 and everyone here knows that. I don't like what has happened to the employees(especially my father a 26 year 777 captain with 5 years left before retirement) either. No one here who doesn't work for UA
or any other struggling carrier knows what it is like. As of right now, my father is selling his house because his salary is HALF of what it was in 2000. ALL
of his ESOP is gone, and his pension has been cut to 25% of what it was.
Everyone here says "remember Eastern, TWA,TXI, Pan Am......?" This situation is ENTIRELY different. UA
was not raped by Frank Lorenzo or Carl Ichan, UA
did not have the lack of domestic feed that Pan Am had, and UA
did not have the same problems as Braniff. UA
is an excellent airline but for some reason everytime they win an award, everyone here says "oh its because they sponser the organization", "oh the voting is rigged", oh "i flew UA
one time 15 years ago and my flight was delayed so the service MUST be the same", etc. etc.
Another one is, "UA
's product and service is old and sucks because I cant play video games at my seat or my flight was delayed 30 minutes 15 years ago.", "CO
is better", "AA
is better" blah blah blah. Yes UA
's First Suite doesnt have the huge tv, and yes the product is 7-10 years old, but it is a 180 degree lie flat bed. Does CO
have that? NO. Does DL
have that? NO . Does NW
have that? NO. And does ANY other US carrier have Channel 9? NO. Did any other legacy carrier rank higher than UA
in on-time performance? NO. I guess i am naive thinking that and channel 9 would be more important to people on a site like this than playing Mario Brothers on your way to FRA
So please people, if you have not flown UA
more than 3 times in the past 2-4 years, don't make a comment because UA
different than in 95, FAR
different than during "The Summer of Hell", and is FAR
different than it was under Goodwin.
In conclusion, I'm sorry if I seem irate, but UA
is the airline I have grown up with and love more than anything(yes that includes sex
), and they have supported my family tremendously. I have wanted to be a pilot for UA
since before I can remember and could not imagine flying for anyone else. So do not wish they go chap. 7 and try to examine the real airline whether you like it or not and base you opinion off of that before you s&it on their product. If they liquidate, hundreds of thousands of people will be affected. How will my 17 year old sister who is an up-and-coming high school senior go to college? What about my 12 year old brother? People here just do not think about the true rammifications of what would happen. Instead they think "Wouldn't it be cool if CO
flew to Heathrow?"
It is always darkest before the sun comes up.