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Question About BA And SA...

Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:09 pm

Why is it that BA planes are labeled "Speedbird," and SA planes are called "Springbok?" Or is this just their 744's?
 
Matt72033
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RE: Question About BA And SA...

Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:30 pm

with BA Speedbird is the callsign for all their aircraft.......someone told me why quite recently, but i cant for the life of me remember...i'll try an find out again, but i'm sure someone else will answer before i do!  Wink
 
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RE: Question About BA And SA...

Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:54 pm

And just as "Speedbird" is the callsign for BA, "Springbok" is the callsign for SAA; why that was chosen, I'm not absolutely sure, but if you look at pictures of planes in the old SAA livery have a look at the tail: that was called the "Flying Springbok".

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Ready4Pushback
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RE: Question About BA And SA...

Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:46 pm

I don't know the answer to the question, and would like to know myself, but isn't it Speedbirde and not Speedbird? I don't know where it comes from?

I quite like the idea of the call-signs being representitive of their origin - "Springbok" is excellent, imo.
 
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RE: Question About BA And SA...

Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:29 pm

Speedbird (not Speedbirde - you are probably thinking of 'Speedmarque' which is the name for the current logo on the sides of BA a/c) is the BA callsign. It dates at least as far back as BOAC times when the logo was called the Speedbird. Lots of airlines have callsigns that are different from their names (e.g. America West's is 'Cactus', Air Lingus' is 'Shamrock').
 
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RE: Question About BA And SA...

Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:18 pm

springbok is the national animal of south africa and the old saa livery had a flying spingbok on the tail. I am not sure if the call sign is still used.

also i remember when value jet existed they had a call sign of critter.
 
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RE: Question About BA And SA...

Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:11 am


The Speedbird logo goes further back than BOAC - all the way back to Imperial Airways in fact, who after World War II were integrated into the new state owned BOAC for longhaul travel, with the retention of their logo. It lasted on BA aircraft until the Landor livery was launched, when the red Speedwing became the airline's logo and that evolved into the current Speedmarque. But the callsign has remained the same.

Incidentially the two letter BA code and Boeing customer code of 36 are both originally those of BOAC but were retained by British Airways when it was created out of the merger of BOAC and BEA.


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Imperial Airways De Havilland DH91 Albatross displaying the Speedbird logo.


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BOAC 747-136 displaying Speedbird logo on the tail.


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BA 747-136 in original livery displaying the Speedbird logo behind the cockpit. Tail livery is the first stylised version of the Union Flag.


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BA 747-236B in Landor livery. The Speedbird has gone, replaced by the red Speedwing along the length of the fuselage. The tail livery is the second stylised version of the Union Flag incorporating the BA coat of arms.


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BA 747-436 in current colours. The Speedmarque is the airlines current logo, displayed above the titles. The stylised Union Flag remains on the tail, now in its third form - and looking a lot more natural, i.e. segment of a fluttering flag.

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