jetskipper
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Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:30 am

I saw a Midwest B-717 land at CLE at around 0800 this morning. Did Midwest bring back mainline to CLE or was it a charter.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:09 am

I checked ... photos of Midwest Airlines jets in airliners.net data base, came up with nothing  thumbsdown  I have no knowledge of Midwest operation in CLE.
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daus
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:17 am

Quoting Jetskipper (Thread starter):
Did Midwest bring back mainline to CLE or was it a charter.

Flight schedules only show Midwest Connect's RJs into Cleveland.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:34 am

Skyway only flies into CLE. I'll be at work tonight so if my other MKE buddies don't beat me to it, I should have an answer later today. It was probably a diversion.
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:36 am

However, there was Midwest EXPRESS Airlines jet in CLE


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Midwest Airlines & Midwest Express Airlines -- TWO different airline?

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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:42 am

Quoting September11 (Reply 4):

Midwest Express = Original airline in the original livery. Also had the real 4 star meals onboard for free....yuuuummm.

Midwest = the new name, same carrier, people and seating, just new name. HQ wanted to get rid of the "express" as these days it refers to small regional airplanes and HQ thought people were getting confused so they weren't flying us.
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:43 am

September11, a couple years ago Midwest Express and Skyway rebranded to Midwest Airlines and Midwest Connect; in an attempt to shed the Express connotations of being a regional airline.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:01 am

Quoting Uswyjer (Reply 6):

thanks for the explanation!

here's photo of Midwest CONNECT planes
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cle757
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:03 am

There is an old Midwest Dc-9 sitting on the Air Services pad, its been there for almost a year now.
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Ilovenz
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:50 am

YX should start mainline CLE services. By the way, since I often start YX threads I was happy that someone else did this time... As long as we're on the YX subject, is there any market for overseas traffic from MCI?? Ok, maybe YX ever flying more than 2500 nm direct sounds crazy, but I know I'm not the only one here who has thought about YX starting up long-distances services.

Staying with the original topic, is YX afraid to go into well-established markets or the big-boys' hubs? What about SLC, Oakland, PDX, SEA, DET(??), etc?

Hope I didn't digress too much on that one.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:06 am

Long distance services by YX is impossible. The current fleet can't do it and its much too costly to acquire aircraft, parts, and train flight crews, maintenance, and ground crews. Long distance costs a great deal of money. Money YX has never had.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:01 am

Jeb94-- I'm mostly talking about once they've built up their domestic network. I would think they could maybe offer some competitive prices from their MCI hub. Obviously this would be way down the road, but it would be a good plan to have on the shelf when they get out of their financial quagmire and start growing a little more.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:30 am

The aircraft diverted to CLE from EWR this morning due to a MTC issue. MTC from MKE is being sent to CLE to fix it. Passengers were rerouted to MKE.
One can only wish Mainline came back to CLE.
By the way, the flight that diverted was YX273.

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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:42 am

I saw that plane sitting there on the ride in from Riveredge. I got excited for a moment but figured it was probably a maint. issue since YX hasn't been in CLE for years. Would that be CLE's first ever 717 or has/did TW, FL or YX diverted planes in before?

By the way, I saw CO's 757 with winglets at CLE today, it looked a lot better than I expected it to!

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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:10 am

Quoting Ilovenz (Reply 11):
Jeb94-- I'm mostly talking about once they've built up their domestic network. I would think they could maybe offer some competitive prices from their MCI hub. Obviously this would be way down the road, but it would be a good plan to have on the shelf when they get out of their financial quagmire and start growing a little more.

Midwest grows very slowly and doesn't take very many risks as far as routes go. There will be opportunities to add a few new routes with the rest of the 717's coming, but not too much. I doubt anyone would be remotely thinking about long range international service this decade. Just curious, but why do you think they would do this out of MCI predominantly?
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:07 am

Quoting September11 (Reply 4):
Midwest Airlines & Midwest Express Airlines -- TWO different airline?

this brings up another question. (this one is to the mods). Since A.net tries to keep an accurate and quality database, how do they handle name changes of the airlines? this here serves as a perfect example. i think that A.net should change all the "Midwest Express" images to "Midwest Airlines" and add a caption someplace "(Formerly Midwest Express)". also make them searchable by both: new and old names. a simple SQL command. Your thoughts?
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:15 am

Quoting Ilovenz (Reply 9):
YX should start mainline CLE services. By the way, since I often start YX threads I was happy that someone else did this time... As long as we're on the YX subject, is there any market for overseas traffic from MCI?? Ok, maybe YX ever flying more than 2500 nm direct sounds crazy, but I know I'm not the only one here who has thought about YX starting up long-distances services.

Staying with the original topic, is YX afraid to go into well-established markets or the big-boys' hubs? What about SLC, Oakland, PDX, SEA, DET(??), etc?

Hope I didn't digress too much on that one.

Since there flights right now to MKE force you to have long connections in one direction or another I can not really see it happening.
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:22 am

I fly MKE-CLE often via YX (about 6-7 times per year), and nearly every time the planes are full, or have 1 or 2 seats empty. I dont know exact loads on that route, but it SEEMS that demand is higher that the capacity, which then would naturally make sence to bring a higher capacity B717 onto that route. can anyone confirm that or am i full of it?
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RE: Midwest Airlines In CLE

Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:33 am

TW did have a 717 in CLE at least once, I remember seeing it.
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