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Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:58 pm

With Air Wisconsin and Republic now onboard as commuter carriers for the new HP/US, couldn't that mean more Midwest cities or even possibly an RJ hub in the Midwest like CVG is for DL? Remember, when reports of the merger were first released they stated a larger presence in the Midwest along with service to Hawaii.
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:27 pm

Republic is not solidly on board. They were originally offering financing to help bail US out but with the merger, they have pulled out of the agreement. ZW still has there agreement in place and their 125 million is being used to help finance the agreement. I doubt there will be a midwest hub right away, because ZW is going to have hubs at PHL, opening in September, DCA opening a month later, and one other yet unnamed city, likely to be PIT.
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:14 am

Air Wisky planes will primarily go to replace Trans States and Mesa flying initially in the Airways network. Of course post merger, there are 18 CRJ-900s (Mesa) that will leave the HP network for Airways.

As far as Republic, the option is still being weighed to sell the 170 fleet to them. There is also the option for the commuter slot sale/lease back option that was initially discussed. However, US/HP have chosen not to exercise any part of that agreement yet.

As far as a midwest build up. I doubt you'll see a hub, you will likely just see more connecting the dots between the US hubs and HP hubs. Places like OMA, OKC, etc will get flights to both sides of the country.
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:18 am

As was stated on the day of the merger, US/HP will be increasing their presence in the Midwest. However, no mention of a midwest hub was announced and will more than likely never happen. US/HP has clearly stated where their footholds will be located (HUBS: CLT, PHL, PHX - Secondary Hubs: LAS, PIT - Focus Cities: FLL, DCA, LGA, BOS). So no IND, no MCI, no STL, no OKL, no MDW, no DEN, no DFW.. none of that).
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:35 am

I wonder what "secondary hub" VS "focus city" will come to mmean in HelPUS nomenclature.
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:38 am

It is going to be very interesting in 2-3 years from now, when all the dust settles, to see what happened with all of the RJ sluts that are out there right now trying to get their planes in with any network carrier that will take them. Between Republic, Chautaqua, Shuttle America (all three are one company!), Mesa, Air Wisconsin, Mesaba, etc., it will be fun to see how it all turns out and whether the consistency and performance of RJ operations for the legacy airlines involved (DL, NW, UA, US) suffers because of all the change.
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:38 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 4):
I wonder what "secondary hub" VS "focus city" will come to mmean in HelPUS nomenclature.

Don't read too much into secondary hub verus focus city. People in PIT got all excited when they heard one person refer to them as a secondary "hub"...US Airways immediately corrected back to focus city.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3):
So no IND, no MCI, no STL, no OKL, no MDW, no DEN, no DFW.. none of that).

OKL? Where's that? That's a new one.  Smile
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:50 am

Sorry Ouboy79, I was just trying to think of airports in the midwest.. not quite as easy to recall as these on the east coast...
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:59 am

OKLahoma City, of course.  Wink
 
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:11 am

Quoting DCAflyboy (Thread starter):
With Air Wisconsin and Republic now onboard as commuter carriers for the new HP/US, couldn't that mean more Midwest cities or even possibly an RJ hub in the Midwest like CVG is for DL?

These fleets are very transient,meaning, just because they currently are involved in operations centered on the Midwest US, doesn't mean necessarily that is where they will stay once the merger details are cemented...

The consolidation of the Mainline airlines will have a residual effect on these Feeder operations as well. I expect a quarter of the (national) fleet of RJs will be found redundant in about 12 to 18 months time. We are still dealing with issues of overcapacity, and that extends to Republic and Air Wisconsin as well.

These guys better figure out what their going to do with these fleets quick lest be caught with their pants down.
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RE: Air Wis/Republic -- More Midwest Cities For HP/US?

Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:07 am

As I said, even just a few years ago who would've thought:

-Shuttle America flying Saabs, now E170's for UAX
-Colgan flying for Continental Connection in IAH
-ACA dropping UAX flying, and becoming Independence Air and flying A319's
-Air Wisconsin flying for USAirways
-Mesa becoming a Delta Connection carrier

and the list goes on and on....
This industry changes by the day.

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