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Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:08 am

Hi,

I was scrolling through the photos taken at Tel Aviv (TLV) and saw a photo with two former Dutchbird 757s parked at the airport (bottom right of the photo below). So my question is: Why are these two Dutchbird aircraft parked in TLV? Have they been taken over by a israeli airline or have the Israeli authorities just seized those aircraft due to payment issues?


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By the way, the new terminal of TLV looks very nice  Smile


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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:02 am

They are owned by Boeing Aircraft Holding Company and were leased to Dutchbird so seizing due to payment problems is unlikely. They now have american regs and flown to TLV form AMS last January:
PH-DBA (24747) Stored as N723BA 12/01/05
PH-DBH (24748) Stored at TLV as N298BA
PH-DBB (24738) N246BA stored at TLV

So where's number three at the picture?
Or did 24748/DBH already left TLV to be repainted for Air Italy?

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The same will happen with 24738/DBB.
But why TLV???
 
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:50 pm

That's exactly my question, why are these ex-Dutchbird aircraft be stored in TLV? Will they go to Israeli airlines or modification work in TLV?

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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:18 pm

Another interesting question in the first picture would be as to what that ANA 742 is doing there. It is at the bottom of the pciture , parked in that square next to the grass field.
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:03 pm

And what abou the El Al bird in the bottom right, strange location for an aircraft next to the parking lot.
 
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:20 pm

There is quite a big engineering operation at TLV which is probably why those 752PW aircraft are there. The lessor could have them reconfigured or resprayed in the facility as soon as a deal is done.

They could also be due some heavy checks which are being delayed for the same reason, waiting until there is a customer to deliver them to and contracts finalised.
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:47 pm

And what abou the El Al bird in the bottom right, strange location for an aircraft next to the parking lot.

That is an an El Al 707 in new colors.....I saw it a few weeks ago in person and it was a nice surprise!
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:06 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
That is an an El Al 707 in new colors

And you cen get very close to it when at the long-term parking.

All other stored birds await their turn at the adjacent IAI facilities (conversion, refurbishment, VIP version, etc.)
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:12 pm

A few clarifications:

The 707 at the bottom, right-hand corner is painted with the new LY c/s, but it never flew wearing it. It's been on permanent display next to the LY offices for years. You can see it from route #1 (the Tel Aviv-Jerusalem freeway) and various roads within the airport.

As mentioned, TLV is also home airport for IAI (Israel Aircraft Industries). IAI is quite popular with PAX-freight conversions, as well as various other modifications. That's why many of these aircrafts are there. Recently, a few ex AC 744 have been converted:

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The ex ANA aircraft has also been there for a while. It's clearly visible from route #1, and been stripped of engines for over a year now, so it's going nowhere...

BTW, until the new terminal was opened, this was the main LY apron. Now we can no longer enjoy views such as this from the freeway...

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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:00 am

Quoting Focus (Reply 8):
The ex ANA aircraft has also been there for a while. It's clearly visible from route #1, and been stripped of engines for over a year now, so it's going nowhere...

So will it rust on that spot forever? Do you have some more info on that?

Also, there's IAI apron, across the route 40, with some rusty airframes (707, c130, 742/1 come to mind). Those been there for years and don't look like some work is expecting them...
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RE: Dutchbird Stored At TLV?

Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:29 am

That ANA 742 indeed looks like it's going nowhere. The aircraft is fully stripped after a long time in service. Sad sight though but unfortunately we will see more of those classic 747s being disposed of. Their time has come...  Sad

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